In Lycoming We Trust

[Colonel]

We are shit compared to the Kings of Aviation.

We are scum, we know nothing, we can do nothing.

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Just ask Arlo or Wayne or Laird about me.  I'm just
not a very good pilot, compared to a TC Inspector.

Ask any of the Big Bellies at Tower C or 4900 Yonge -
they will tell you I know nothing about aviation,
compared to them.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 0h0007.pdf

[Chris]

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[url=http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 0h0007.pdf]http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 0h0007.pdf[/url]
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A very long way to say "they forgot to put the gear down, crashed, got back into the air, and went on a merry flight over downtown Ottawa".


Good learning experience?

[Colonel]

We all make mistakes.  Yeah, they bounced a King Air,
gear up, off the runway at Gatineau.

But what really grinds my gears is that they didn't
immediately land at Gatineau, like any sane pilot.

Incredibly, in a severely damaged aircraft, TC chose
to fly over populated Ottawa.  This tale could easily
have had a very different ending, one that the TSB
chose to not mention.

No sane pilot embarks on a cross-country flight over
a populated area in what they know to be a severely
damaged aircraft.

That's careless and reckless, and perhaps criminal.

But because they are the Kings of Aviation, it's ok.

Revolting.

We are scum, compared to them, remember.

[John Swallow]

While doing circuits in a T-Bird years ago, a friend of mine landed wheels-up.  When asked by the Base Commander at the bar that night:  "What happened?", my friend went right to the heart of the problem which shortened the Investigation considerably:  "I guess I forgot to put the wheels down"

Regardless of the number of prompts in a checklist, just before I flash across the button, there is a final visual check of the gear indicators.  I imagine I'm not alone...

J

[Colonel]

Everyone makes mistakes.  Any pilot that
tells you he doesn't make mistakes is either
a liar, or doesn't fly.

It how you deal with your mistakes, and other
difficult situations, that matters.

[ScudRunner-d95]

[quote author=John Swallow link=topic=5503.msg14348#msg14348 date=1485616850]
While doing circuits in a T-Bird years ago, a friend of mine landed wheels-up.  When asked by the Base Commander at the bar that night:  "What happened?", my friend went right to the heart of the problem which shortened the Investigation considerably:  "I guess I forgot to put the wheels down"

Regardless of the number of prompts in a checklist, just before I flash across the button, there is a final visual check of the gear indicators.  I imagine I'm not alone...

J
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Yup usually at my DH or Visual Callout I glance over to confirm the 3 green are still indicating.

[Colonel]

At least in the airplanes I fly, the gear makes a
big difference to the drag.

If I forget to put the gear down, and I'm on final
with the throttle pulled all the way back desperately
trying to get the speed down ... guess what I forgot?

The horn should really come on, but ...

Not that I've ever done that (ahem).  A "friend"
told me about that.  That sound plausible?

I'm a really big fan of having some known, nominal
configurations of aircraft that you fly, for approach. 

Just a few.  This isn't hard.

You set the flaps to X, the gear to Y, the power to Z,
you should see airspeed A and descent rate B.

If you don't, there is something horribly wrong.  You
are not flying the same airplane.  Did you climb in
the wrong one?

[Chuck Ellsworth]

A great amount of my flying was in amphibious aircraft so making sure the gear was down for landing would not have worked to well for a water landing.


My last check before every landing was.


WHERE AM I LANDING, AND WHERE IS MY GEAR.


That worked forevery landing.