In Lycoming We Trust

[Colonel]

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High speed stall.  Bounced it off the water.

Incredible recovery.

[Liquid Charlie]

Of particular interest is the position of the control surfaces (rear view slomo). He didn't pull back prematurely, all controls in play, a bit novel idea in these flat footed times. A good lesson for us all. That is muscle memory at it's best. 

[Chris]

I can't see it at work but I assume this is when Matt Hall stalled and skipped it off the water? Amazing flying.

[Colonel]

In your career, many things will go wrong, and it's
how you deal with it, that determines how good a
pilot you are.

Of course we work hard never to have anything go
wrong, but sometimes they do - even if it's not your
fault - and you have to deal with it.  That's your job.

For example, landing a little airplane, the ground
rushes up at you and you pull back too hard, and
you climb back up to 15 feet with no airspeed and
the throttle at idle.  Your bad.

Or the hot sun heats the dark runway, and the thermal
similarly tosses you back up into the sky with no
airspeed.

Or the wind blows you sideways during the flare.

Not your fault.

But any way it happens, you have to deal with it.

When you have no airspeed, hauling back on the
stick is probably not the best choice, although it
is instinctive.  You want to go up, right?  But in
this case, hauling back on the stick just ensures
your doom.  Colgan 3407, AF447, etc ad nauseum.

As LC points out, what you see in the video is a
phenomenal recovery.  It was happening too fast
for his front lobes to observe/process/output in
real time.  His lizard brain did the right thing.

Amazing.  Mikey Goulian commented on this,
saying that it was a good thing that Matt Hall
is one of the best pilots in the world.

Oddly he doesn't have a fat logbook.  Only 4000
hours, which doesn't stack up well to a four bar.

However he has 1500 hours in an F-18 and 500
hours in an F-15 which we might say, are real
hours.  Oh yeah, he flies silly little taildraggers,
too, like the P-51, Extra 300.  Interesting breadth
of experience which we are told these days is no
longer important to be a king of aviation.

The mega-winners in aviation today climb into
the right seat of a 737 with 300 hours in 172's
and a seminole for the MIFR, right?

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[Colonel]

Data point:

Chesley Burnett "Sully" Sullenberger III is feted as an
international hero, for the heroic feat of being able to
establish an airbus in a glide, and flare it without power.

He learned to fly on an Aeronca Champ - a stupid little
taildragger - and in the USAF, flew the T-37, T-38 and
F-4.  As a civilian, he flew gliders, and instructed on
them, as well as instructing on SEL, MEL and IFR. 

In Canada, as an instructor, he would be viewed as
loser scum by the white shirt crowd.

He did have an interesting breadth of experience
on different types, though, didn't he?

Let me know if anyone spots a pattern here.

[Colonel]

A guy I know, flies Airbuses for a living, bought
a Pitts S-2C.  Brand new.  Beautiful and shiny.

Says it keeps him sharp, which the airbus does
not.

The important thing is that there is nothing to
learn here.

[red_shiny_ribbon]

I'm glad you understand you're not a good pilot since you're not flying a pitts. Who cares that accident statistics are lower and lower every year even when pilots fly more and more. Us old timers know what we're talking about, the way we used to do things was much better. It doesn't matter that more planes were crashing and more people were dying, I was one of the ones that made it so my way is the best way. God damn youngsters these days don't know what they're talking about. They all want a participation medal, back in my days we used to get love letters in our log books, thats how real pilots did it. 


You see that huge spike of accidents back in the late 50's and early 60's when tail draggers were still mainstream? Thats what I'm talking about tail draggers is where its at for making top notch pilots.

[woodzi]

I learned to fly at a later age and one of the biggest challenges has been reprogramming my lizard brain.

At first, I was working the throttle backwards. Instructor said, "you grew up driving tractors, right?" Yes I did.

Then my feet. I grew up racing motocross and the way you weight the pegs is often different than the way you want to operate the rudders. Yaw over a jump on a bike is no problem. It is usually on purpose. I still haven't totally re-trained by feet and my yaw sensor.

I did start to feel more comfortable the day the mighty 150 took a big dip on short final and I instinctively pushed the yoke and throttle forward.

Having the experience and instincts on the motorcycle at least has shown me what it is like to truly master a vehicle, which is a great help to avoid being over confident in the airplane.

[Trey Kule]

The important thing is that there is nothing to
learn here.

I don't understand why you say things like this.

Shiny:  who are these experts you refer to, and where does anyone say you are not a very good pilot?
Please be specific so I can reread the threads.

Look, you two have lots to contribute. But it is a bit hard to read with the continious humble- bragging referencing some experts and their comments that do not appear anywhere.

If you have something to add, put it out there...it is so tiresome wading through the self flagulation to get to what you are trying to say.

I apologize for the thread drift.