Russian military Tu-154 aircraft disappears from radar after take-off in Sochi

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[size=2.6em][font=Din Pro]Russian military Tu-154 aircraft disappears from radar after take-off in Sochi

Russian air traffic controllers have lost contact with a Tu-154 airliner with 91 people on board, which disappeared from radar shortly after take-off in Sochi, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed in a statement.
Ninety-one people were on board the aircraft, including 83 passengers and eight crew members, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
The plane took off from Sochi Adler Airport on a “planned flight” and failed to check in with the control tower at 5:40am Moscow time, the ministry said, adding that all rescue services in the region have been deployed to search for the missing plane.
"According to preliminary data, a Russian Defense Ministry Tu-154 disappeared from radar screens after departing from Sochi," a source in the country's Emergencies Ministry told RIA Novosti earlier.
Nine journalists along with musicians from the army choir of the Russian Armed Forces, the Alexandrov Ensemble, were aboard the plane, the ministry confirmed. The musicians were due to take part in a New Year's concert at the Russian airbase in Latakia, Syria.
“According to preliminary data, the missing Tu-154 arrived in Sochi from Chkalovsky airfield near Moscow for refueling. It is likely that it crashed in the mountainous area of the Krasnodar region,” another source told RIA.
Meanwhile, another source familiar with the matter told Interfax that the plane went off radar when the Tu-154 was maneuvering in Russian airspace over the Black Sea, shortly after take off.
“The plane disappeared from radar approximately 20 minutes after takeoff,” another source told RIA, adding that the plane departed at 5:20am local time and failed to check in with the tower at 5:40am.
The Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviation) told RIA Novosti that the flight was “not civilian”.
Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu is coordinating the search efforts via videoconferencing. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Russian President Vladimir Putin has been alerted of the incident and is getting live updates on the search and rescue effort.
Sources on the ground told RIA that technical failure and/or human error are being considered as potential causes of the accident. Meanwhile, TASS reports that weather conditions in Sochi are “favorable” to aviation. No civilian flights have been cancelled.
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[ramjet555]

Pilots' last words: "Speed 300 (inaudible)." "(Inaudible)." "I've pulled in the landing gear, commander.""(Inaudible).""Oh bloody hell!" Piercing alarm sounds "The flaps, hell, what a…!" "The altimeter [altitude meter] "We're in… (inaudible)." Alarm sounds about dangerous proximity to the ground "(Inaudible)." "Commander we're falling!"

[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38449058]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38449058[/url]







This news item is not on www.rt.com who have gone totally silent.

[ramjet555]

Just found a link at [url=http://www.Rt.com]www.Rt.com[/url] who complain that someone "leaked" the news that Flaps were connected with the accident.
Talk about a culture problem.


I went into some of the Russian sites and found this one. I'll put up the google translation
[url=https://life.ru/t/]https://life.ru/t/[/url]эксклюзивы/953404/oshibka_vnimaniia_vtoroi_pilot_tu-154_mogh_pierieputat_rychaghi_upravlieniia


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[size=48px][font=roboto slab]focus error. The co-pilot of the Tu-154 could confuse the control levers


[/font][/size][size=19px]After Decoding of the Ministry of Defense of the Tu-154 that captured all of the sounds and conversations in the cockpit before the crash, it became clear that the plane went out of control due to a problem with the flaps. It was a wrong action of pilots, or equipment failure. Now interdepartmental commission is trying to figure out what was wrong with the flaps.[/size][size=19px]Experts Interdepartmental Commission continue decoding of black boxes of the Tu-154 crashed into the Black Sea. Judging from the data decryption, an emergency situation with the plane was a surprise for the crew members, in the first seconds of the two pilots were confused, but quickly pulled himself together and tried to the last second to save the plane.[/size]

[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]BREAKDOWN:[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Speed ... 300 ... (Inaudible.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- (Inaudible.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Took the stand, the commander.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- (Inaudible.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Uh, e-my![/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px](Sounds a sharp signal.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Flaps, bitch, Th for x ** nya![/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Altimeter![/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- We ... (Inaudible.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px](Sounds a signal of dangerous proximity to the ground.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- (Inaudible.)[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- Commander, we fall![/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]Thus it became clear that there were problems with the aircraft flaps. According Lajfa, experts believe that the co-pilot, who controls the flaps and landing gear are simply confused levers on the control panel.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- In the third minute flight rather than retract the landing gear, the second pilot to retract the flaps, - told Life source familiar with the work of the Commission. - From this plane passed into the beyond the angle of attack, the crew tried to turn the car to make it to the ground, but did not have time. The plane hit the water, and he fell off the tail portion.[/size][/font][/color]


[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px][img width=500 height=321]https://static.life.ru/posts/2016/12/95 ... __980x.jpg[/img][/size][/font][/color]


[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]This version is considered acceptable and the test pilot Hero of Russia Magomed Tolboev.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- The control panel of the Tu-154 toggle flaps and landing gear are located above the windscreen. Flaps - left, chassis - Right. Responsible for them co-pilot, who sits in a chair on the right. It is possible that the pilot could confuse or distract the levers at something, so the plane took off with the landing gear and flaps retracted, - he told Life Tolboev.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]Pilots who flew on the Tu-154, and do not rule out such an option, but note that the probability is low.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]- At the "Tupolev" landing gear and flaps cleaning handle are made to the car visor pilots between them, above the windscreen.[/size][/font][/color]

[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]Of course, in terms of ergonomics is wrong. They really are close, but you can mix them, perhaps only once in a million, if, for example, the pilot is very tired, - told Life Honored Pilot of the Russian Federation Viktor Sazhenin, himself eight years came off on the Tu-154. - They have a completely different ergonomics. Retraction handle - with a spherical tip as wheel flaps and removes trapezoidal handle, which is pushed with two fingers and has several positions.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]By the way, removes the flaps co-pilot sitting on the right, said Sazhenin. Also, according to him, the option to mix and leverage more unlikely because the flaps and landing gear retracted at different times. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]Chassis you need to remove immediately after take-off, and not through the 2-3 minutes of flight.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]An expert from the Federal Air Transport Agency said that a preliminary study recording voice recorder outputs in priority version of the technical malfunction of the ship and pilot error.However, other versions are processed. For example, getting into the engine of foreign objects (eg, birds), low-quality fuel, povlёkshee power loss and failure of the engines.[/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]The disaster Tu-154 took place December 25, 2016 at 5:40 am Moscow time on the 1.7 kilometers off the coast of Sochi. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=rgb(46, 46, 46)][font=roboto][size=19px]The board of the Russian Ministry of Defense flew to the Syrian Hmeymim to Chkalovsky airfield at the airport of Sochi, he refueled. On board the ship were 92 people. Two minutes after lift-off from the band, unable to gain altitude, the plane disappeared from radar screens. No alarms the crew did not let on.[/size][/font][/color]

[ScudRunner-d95]

Just saying ....

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[ramjet555]

That is a six year old video and its not on www.RT.com right now
Click youtube and you will see it was uploaded May 11, 2011
I'll have another look at Trumps Propaganda channel.

[ramjet555]

Another Example of Russian Media control.


Their headlines omit the "leaking" of the voice recorder information.
Now, instead of putting up on Trump's propaganda channel www.RT.com aka "Russia Today, they
use the BBC to allude that Terrorism "might be" a cause of the accident
when they previously said the exact opposite, without a shred of anything
to justify that change in view.


[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38462097]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38462097[/url]
Investigators in Russia say they cannot rule out the possibility that an attack downed a jet over the Black Sea, with the loss of all 92 passengers and crew.
An external "mechanical impact" could have caused Sunday's disaster, a flight safety official said, while confirming there had been no explosion.
But he added that it was just one of many theories, including technical failure and human error.
The defence ministry airliner was bound for Syria at the time.
Russian media have published what they said was the pilots' final conversation, reportedly transcribed from a flight recorder recovered from the wreckage.
It suggests that the Tu-154 jet's wing flaps - panels which help lift an aircraft - were not moving together, causing the crew to lose control.
Analysis of the plane's "black boxes" may not be completed until the end of January.The victims of the Russian jet crash What we know How a plane crash is investigated Air disasters timeline On board the plane were 64 members of the famed Alexandrov military music ensemble, still known as the Red Army Choir, who were due to perform for Russian forces in Syria.
The plane, which was 33 years old, crashed soon after take-off from Adler airport near the city of Sochi, where it had landed for refuelling, en route from Moscow.

It came down in good weather, close to the shore, with no survivors.
Nineteen bodies and more than 230 body fragments have been recovered in a massive search of the sea, along with 13 big fragments of the plane and about 2,000 smaller fragments.
"There was no explosion on board," Lt-Gen Sergei Bainetov, the Russian air force's head of flight safety, told reporters on Thursday.

"But this isn't the only type of terrorist act... It could have been any type of mechanical impact, so we don't rule out a terrorist act."
Around seven theories that include poor quality fuel causing engine failure and a bird getting caught up in the engines are being investigated, he added, quoted by Reuters news agency.
"There is no leading theory," he stressed.
[img alt=A diver prepares a fragment of the crashed Tu-154 plane for retrieval in the Black Sea near Sochi, Russia, 28 December]http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsp ... 171688.jpg[/img]
However, Russian Transport Minister Maxim Sokolov told the same news conference: "The version of a terror attack isn't being considered as the main version."
Russian officials previously suggested terrorism was not being considered as a possible cause of the crash.Last words attributed to the pilots:]"Speed 300 [inaudible].""[Inaudible]."

"I've pulled in the landing gear, commander.""[Inaudible]."
"Oh bloody hell!" Piercing alarm sounds "The flaps, hell, what a…!""The altimeter [altitude meter]!"
"We're in… [inaudible]."Alarm sounds about dangerous proximity to the ground "[Inaudible]."
"Commander, we're falling!"

The Tupolev airliner was an old model no longer flown by airlines in Russia but still used by the military.
If the final conversation attributed to the crew proves to be genuine, it could indicate either a mechanical fault or a fault by the crew, such as mistakenly retracting the flaps instead of the undercarriage. Tupolev-154: Russian workhorse The backbone of Soviet and Russian airlines for decades Three engines, narrow-bodied and medium range Designed in the mid-1960s, came into service in 1972 and was modernised in 1986 with new engines and equipment Has seen 39 fatal accidents, although few were due to technical problems. Many were as a result of difficult weather conditions and poor air traffic control. A few were lost in conflicts including in Lebanon, Georgia and Afghanistan Not used in Russia's civil aviation since 2009, but is still used by the military.

Only about 50 in service worldwide [url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38462097]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38462097[/url]

[ramjet555]

Aljazeera has a great bit of Russian military video that shows, for a second
a map of the flight path, and that it crashed "two minutes" after take off.
It looks like a 90 degree turn after about a mile after take off, then it hit the
Black Sea.


[url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/f ... 29857.html]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/f ... 29857.html[/url]

[Chuck Ellsworth]

What is Trumps propaganda channel?

[CD]

;)

[url=https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump]https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump[/url]

[ramjet555]

A classic example of RT.com's support of trump is their constant flow of negative stories about anything to do with American government and or the Democrats.


Here is a classic example of a story on BBC and you won't see this one on RT.com.


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[/color][size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][b]The children of a South Carolina politician accused of battering his wife can be heard screaming "just stop, Daddy" on a 911 call recording.[/b][/color][/size]

[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]Republican representative Chris Corley has been charged with first degree domestic violence and pointing a firearm at a person.[/color][/size]


[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]The call was made on Monday evening, and released by police to local media.[/color][/size]




[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]Mr Corley, 36, recently voted for legislation toughening punishments for domestic violence.[/color][/size]



[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]"Just stop Daddy. Just stop...Daddy, why are you doing this?'' can be heard in a recording [/color][/size][size=medium][color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][font=inherit][b][url=http://www.aikenstandard.com/news/tapes ... a0f5f.html]released to the Aiken Standard newspaper[/url][/b][/font][/color][/size]

[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]In a second call, a woman identified by the Aiken County Sheriff's Office as Mr Corley's mother-in-law tells a dispatcher: "He beat his wife and he's threatening to kill himself.''[/font][/color][/size]

[size=medium][color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][font=inherit][b][url=http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37429051]How a domestic violence survivor changed the law[/url][/b][/font][/color][/size]

[size=medium][color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][font=inherit][b][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36516719]Supporting children who witness domestic violence[/url][/b][/font][/color][/size]


[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]Mr Corley hit his wife "about the head and face with a closed fist" before pointing a handgun at her, the Aiken Standard reports, citing the arrest warrant. The violence was allegedly committed in front of an 8-year-old child.[/font][/color][/size]




[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]The couple have three children.[/font][/color][/size]




[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]Mr Corley told police his wife thought he was cheating on her, and he pushed her away when she attempted to strike him, the newspaper reports.[/font][/color][/size]

[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]The 36-year-old attorney is known for his efforts to keep the Confederate flag flying outside the South Carolina state house.[/font][/color][/size]




[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]The flag [/font][/color][/size][size=medium][color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][font=inherit][b][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33483415]was removed[/url][/b][/font][/color][/size][size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)] in July 2015 after the massacre of nine people in a black church in Charleston by white supremacist[/color][/size]




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[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]During a debate on the issue last year Mr Corley suggested that the Confederate flag should be replaced with the white flag of surrender.[/font][/color][/size]




[size=medium][color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][font=helmet]Mr Corley was released on a $20,000 bond and could face up to 15 years in jail if convicted of both charges.[/font][/color][/size]




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