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Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:39 pm
by David MacRay
Nark wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:19 pm My dream is a turbine powered RV10.
That would be pretty cool. Wasn't someone talking about a turbine Chipmonk?

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:58 pm
by upnatem
Nark wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:19 pm My dream is a turbine powered RV10.
https://www.pbsaerospace.com/news-event ... -the-tp100

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:13 pm
by Nark
upnatem wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:58 pm
Nark wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:19 pm My dream is a turbine powered RV10.
https://www.pbsaerospace.com/news-event ... -the-tp100
That’s what sparked the interest. I’ve been in talks with the engine manufacturer.
I bought a 182 and started a club with it instead.

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:17 pm
by David MacRay
Club?

I wonder how many of those RV-10s are built now. Looks like a pretty great unit. Probably can't import those either. Oh Canada.

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:27 pm
by Tailwind W10
So what kind of money are they asking for the engine? Sure looks like the sweet spot for power in a home-built airplane, thought i choke a little at the 18GPH fuel consumption at cruise. :shock:

Looks like the same gas generator section as the engine on the Sonex jet.

Gerry

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:24 pm
by Colonel
L39 is 70 gph at idle, 300+ gph on takeoff. When we had two of them waiting for a buck fifty
on final at 50 knots, we were burning 140 gph on the ground.

Pro Tip: Only go turbine if you own a refinery!

Both the L39 and the C421 were about a thousand bucks, each trip to the pumps in Canada.

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:30 pm
by David MacRay
My very rudimentary understanding from ground school is turbines switch to more efficient over a long distance when you go fast enough.

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:53 pm
by Nark
I had to sign an NDA with regards to financial info. But, I'll say this: it's not cheaper...

Turbines are efficient up high, in thinner air. The savings is in they still work in the thin air, whereas you'll need one hell of a super charger for a piston. Just a guess, but thats why the Allison's boost in the 50" MP range.

The idea for me, is the RV10 is dime-a-dozen. Why not make something really unique?

The club idea came about because I received constant attention about owning a plane, but then got in to the $$ details and people were turned away. I have 2 coworkers that fly the plane when they want, for a fraction of what the local school charges for the 172. My insurance is set up for me plus 3. I have another coworker asking permission from his boss, hopefully she says yes, and all the members will be coworkers of mine.

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:40 pm
by Tailwind W10
Nark wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:53 pm I had to sign an NDA with regards to financial info.
Understood! I just looked up the PBS TJ-100 on the Sonex website. They're asking $60K and change if you order it with the Subsonex kit, and $65K "regular price". Adding the free turbine spool and a gearbox, I'd make a wild guess would add another $20K to it, or more.

Nice little pipe dream, it'd be a hoot for sure. ;^)
Gerry

Re: Let's get this project for fixing up during the isolation.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:40 pm
by Colonel
Sharing an airplane is like a marriage. Need to choose the right people
or you're going to wish you never did it.