Vahana Project

[Trey Kule]

step 1 in the march to full automation, and addressing any future pilot shortage?


pilots going the way of blacksmiths and dinasaurs...?

[Slick Goodlin]

What?

[Trey Kule]

Typing to fast..Vahana project

https://vahana.aero/welcome-to-vahana-e ... .lndsbphbr

[Colonel]

Lots of job openings advertised.  They may be
surprised at what it takes in terms of total
compensation for the people they want - let
alone breaking someone's RSU train.

I know GE (pretty established name) tried to
start up a shop outside the valley, I think on
the east bay, and they had real sticker shock
on what talent costs.

There are advantages, though.

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Pilot car in the Bay area:

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[Eric Janson]

[quote author=Trey Kule link=topic=5453.msg14103#msg14103 date=1484943359]
Typing to fast..Vahana project

[url=https://vahana.aero/welcome-to-vahana-e ... .lndsbphbr]https://vahana.aero/welcome-to-vahana-e ... .lndsbphbr[/url]
[/quote]

Sounds very similar to the various "flying cars" we've been promised over the years.

My guess is that this will go the same way.

[cgzro]

180Mbps .. pffft.


Hehe I just saw 85Gig download point to point at 75Ghz, beam forming on receiver as they walked..un frigging believable, calculating bounce angles using ray tracing.. yowza.

[Colonel]

[quote]85Gig download[/quote]

Yeah, but can you get it on your phone?  ;D

PS Feel free to write off Airbus's research efforts, but
IIRC they were the guys who went from 3 pilots to 2
pilots, and they'll probably be the guys who go from
2 pilots to 1 pilot, and he probably won't be allowed
to do anything except watch the computer fly.

After a while, they'll get rid of him too, because
people will eventually learn that a rusty, unskilled
human pilot is a lousy backup system.  History has
shown that when he is needed, he makes poor
decisions and has a low level of skill.

[cgzro]

Probably be 1-5gig to the phone in 2020 when 5G is launched. Just saw 2ms round trip delay too. Yowza. Not related to aircraft , range way to short , azimuth too small and doppler not worth the bandwidth sacrafice.

Yeah its worrying because no doubt Toulouse is already working to get the pilots out of the flying loop and restricted to management of the flight. Planes getting lost or stalling into the ocean arnt helping.

[Colonel]

Yeah, the worse pilots fly, the stronger the demand
for complete cockpit automation.

Years from now, aircraft pilots may be as common as
elevator operators, I suspect.  Just a matter of time.

[url=http://www.elevatordesigninfo.com/why-e ... nt-extinct]http://www.elevatordesigninfo.com/why-e ... nt-extinct[/url]

[quote]Today we enter an elevator and press the button for which floor we want to go to. However, elevators weren’t always operated by the riders. Early elevators had operators who were in charge of getting the elevator where the passengers needed to go. [b]Electronics would prove to be the demise of this profession[/b].

It was almost an art and acquired skill to correctly operate an elevator. The elevator was controlled by a hand operated controller for speed and direction. The operator had full control over the elevator car, and was responsible for stopping it so the elevator aligned with the floor. If not done correctly, the passengers would be in for a bumpy up and down ride until the elevator was aligned properly for a safe exit. By the mid-1960s, electronics were becoming popular and the days of the elevator operator were numbered.[/quote]

[cgzro]

Don't know if you have seen them but there are Elevator operating systems now that schedule the trips for 8 or so elevators at once.
As you enter the lobby you go to a master control screen, select your floor, it tells you which elevator to take. You get in and there are no buttons. Everything is centrally scheduled. You see them in Japan , Europe and China now. Allows them to save 20% or so on the elevator hardware for a given traffic load.