Do you think this guy has enough screens in his cockpit? Looks like he's flying a mission to Mars. I don't fly IFR but it's hard to believe there used to be a time when pilots used two navcoms.[list]
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Info overload???
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Trey Kule
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The issue is the PFD and MFD are not stand alone devices. The equipment on the right is. So, you essentially have to have both systems up and running...
The G1000 are stand alone.
Is it information overload? Can be. But it is more about it not being quite as seamless to operate.
The G1000 are stand alone.
Is it information overload? Can be. But it is more about it not being quite as seamless to operate.
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vanNostrum
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Does all this equipment makes for a better and safer pilot?
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DeflectionShot
Richard Collins isn't sure. Interesting article here:
http://www.flyingmag.com/pilot-techniqu ... -pilot-ifr
http://www.flyingmag.com/pilot-techniqu ... -pilot-ifr
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ScudRunner-d95
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I've seen cockpits like that with a Garmin 496 sitting in the dash ::). Seriously how many fucking GPS does one need ?
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Liquid Charlie
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Sunwing is issuing portables so all pilots can find the flight deck
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John Swallow
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A nice panel...
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Colonel
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I think aviation is something different to other people.
I remember checking out a couple of new owners on
an RV that had two nice black plastic-framed displays.
No steam gauges, very avant-garde. Very chic.
Anyways, one of the new owners told me he thought
he would die if the panels went blank - you know, no
airspeed, no altitude, no VSI, etc - in perfect VMC.
You can probably guess what happened next. Yup,
the [b]BAD PERSON[/b] in the right seat popped both EFIS
breakers and the new owner in the left seat learned
that
[b]ATTITUDE + POWER = PERFORMANCE[/b]
something today's stylish pilots have forgotten about.
The new owners were horrified when I tossed this
thick "how to fly" book in the back, and told them that
we were going to fly this very simple airplane by using
a cockpit flow, from left to right.
I know TC wants pilots to have their heads down, reading
a book at a busy uncontrolled airport for maximum mid-air
collisions, but I prefer that pilots
[b]LOOK OUTSIDE[/b]
in such an environment.
It is worth mentioning that they had quite a dependency
on electricity for their pretty color displays, and I tried to
get them to check voltage in their cockpit flow, with only
mediocre success.
I was quite fond of pulling the alternator field breaker,
and of course their fancy software system had the
bottom of the green threshold set far too low, so they
didn't know about the (simulated) charging failure until
it was much too late. No warning from their fancy aural
"bitching betty".
They never caught the voltage on the cockpit flow, because
they had been taught to check such a long list of things
by TC, that they were forced to check them so quickly
that they didn't catch an error.
I tried to get them to slow down, and verify that each
of the four important things were correct, in the flow.
The rest is just TC nonsense.
I remember checking out a couple of new owners on
an RV that had two nice black plastic-framed displays.
No steam gauges, very avant-garde. Very chic.
Anyways, one of the new owners told me he thought
he would die if the panels went blank - you know, no
airspeed, no altitude, no VSI, etc - in perfect VMC.
You can probably guess what happened next. Yup,
the [b]BAD PERSON[/b] in the right seat popped both EFIS
breakers and the new owner in the left seat learned
that
[b]ATTITUDE + POWER = PERFORMANCE[/b]
something today's stylish pilots have forgotten about.
The new owners were horrified when I tossed this
thick "how to fly" book in the back, and told them that
we were going to fly this very simple airplane by using
a cockpit flow, from left to right.
I know TC wants pilots to have their heads down, reading
a book at a busy uncontrolled airport for maximum mid-air
collisions, but I prefer that pilots
[b]LOOK OUTSIDE[/b]
in such an environment.
It is worth mentioning that they had quite a dependency
on electricity for their pretty color displays, and I tried to
get them to check voltage in their cockpit flow, with only
mediocre success.
I was quite fond of pulling the alternator field breaker,
and of course their fancy software system had the
bottom of the green threshold set far too low, so they
didn't know about the (simulated) charging failure until
it was much too late. No warning from their fancy aural
"bitching betty".
They never caught the voltage on the cockpit flow, because
they had been taught to check such a long list of things
by TC, that they were forced to check them so quickly
that they didn't catch an error.
I tried to get them to slow down, and verify that each
of the four important things were correct, in the flow.
The rest is just TC nonsense.
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Rookie Pilot
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Its a tool. Nothing more.
The presence of or absence of doesn't prove anything in regards to superior flying skills, any more than using power tools means a shitty contractor. Gee, I use a hammer instead of a nailer. I'm a real man. Dumb, too. Use what's available.
Now, the most I've ever used was a G 430 and old 396 garmin combo for IFR stuff with steam guages, and there is no doubt 2 glass panels and a portable are way overkill for VFR. I don't program anything for local VFR. Look out the window. I know where I am. Been with others setting all that up for a local flight --- seems unnecessary. But something say like synthetic vision for IFR? That's cool.
Definately a safety enhancer for one in the hard stuff all the time. Just don't be dependent on the technology never failing. Train for that happening, right down to a frozen airspeed indicator.
The presence of or absence of doesn't prove anything in regards to superior flying skills, any more than using power tools means a shitty contractor. Gee, I use a hammer instead of a nailer. I'm a real man. Dumb, too. Use what's available.
Now, the most I've ever used was a G 430 and old 396 garmin combo for IFR stuff with steam guages, and there is no doubt 2 glass panels and a portable are way overkill for VFR. I don't program anything for local VFR. Look out the window. I know where I am. Been with others setting all that up for a local flight --- seems unnecessary. But something say like synthetic vision for IFR? That's cool.
Definately a safety enhancer for one in the hard stuff all the time. Just don't be dependent on the technology never failing. Train for that happening, right down to a frozen airspeed indicator.
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