[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=2586.msg7697#msg7697 date=1459527806]
How many here have ITCZ experience with thunder storms?
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ITCZ?
Anyway mine did pass that along...but it's something else to actually a plan and fly a 300 mile trip and work around this stuff safely, using tools available. So no, I had never seen CB's grow that fast until this year, even though I've worked around them numerous times.
I've never said remotely I'm personally experienced BTW by any measurement. But compared to new class 4's, I suspect Ive had more real world CC experience than many --
I'm low time but there are 63 states and provinces, I've probably been over at least 45 of them. Getting out of the circuit does teach a few things.
Canadian FTU issues.
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Chuck Ellsworth
ITCZ means inter tropical convergence zone it is near the equator and moves north and south during the year.
The thunder storms can get unbelievable in the ITCZ, the biggest I flew through topped at seventy four thousand feet it was between the Panama Canal zone and Ecuador in 1974.
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The thunder storms can get unbelievable in the ITCZ, the biggest I flew through topped at seventy four thousand feet it was between the Panama Canal zone and Ecuador in 1974.
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What the heck does ITCZ have to with Canadian FTUs?
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Chuck Ellsworth
Rookie pilot was talking about thunderstorms, I mentioned the ITCZ and he asked what that was.
Like all threads different subjects come up.
Like all threads different subjects come up.
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Colonel
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From my perspective, it approaches criminal negligence,
what an FTU will waste time teaching, and what it will
omit. Given that they are trying to please TC, this is
not really surprising.
You might think "criminal negligence" is hyperbole. But
a quick google turns up this definition:
[quote]an indifference or disregard for human life or for the safety of people[/quote]
which is a remarkably accurate description of the
consequence to teach what TC wants, rather than
what would benefit their student's continued
survival.
The FTU people will tell you that they are just
following orders, which sounds vaguely familiar.
Do keep in mind that an FTU which is incapable
of teaching a new PPL to land in a crosswind, is
unlikely in the extreme to teach anything useful
about icing, CB's or widespread low ceilings.
Even completely disregarding the content of the
training, a more severe problem at FTU's is the
incredibly wrong lesson they teach about prioritization,
which is one of the most important things a pilot
does. It keeps him alive.
Look at the reluctance that low-time pilots have
to declare an emergency, which things go to shit,
which they are quite likely to do with a low-time
pilot.
No, the FTU's teach students that it is better to
die with perfect paperwork, than risk declaring an
emergency and getting some assistance.
The FTU's teach that getting a letter from Enforcement
is worse than death. That is the fear of TC that
they pass on to their students.
Words fail me at how retarded all of this is. But
criminal negligence seems an appropriate description.
what an FTU will waste time teaching, and what it will
omit. Given that they are trying to please TC, this is
not really surprising.
You might think "criminal negligence" is hyperbole. But
a quick google turns up this definition:
[quote]an indifference or disregard for human life or for the safety of people[/quote]
which is a remarkably accurate description of the
consequence to teach what TC wants, rather than
what would benefit their student's continued
survival.
The FTU people will tell you that they are just
following orders, which sounds vaguely familiar.
Do keep in mind that an FTU which is incapable
of teaching a new PPL to land in a crosswind, is
unlikely in the extreme to teach anything useful
about icing, CB's or widespread low ceilings.
Even completely disregarding the content of the
training, a more severe problem at FTU's is the
incredibly wrong lesson they teach about prioritization,
which is one of the most important things a pilot
does. It keeps him alive.
Look at the reluctance that low-time pilots have
to declare an emergency, which things go to shit,
which they are quite likely to do with a low-time
pilot.
No, the FTU's teach students that it is better to
die with perfect paperwork, than risk declaring an
emergency and getting some assistance.
The FTU's teach that getting a letter from Enforcement
is worse than death. That is the fear of TC that
they pass on to their students.
Words fail me at how retarded all of this is. But
criminal negligence seems an appropriate description.
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Colonel
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Simple example: I doubt there is a single FTU in
all of Canada, that teaches 0/0 approaches.
FTU's will teach you that it is better to die than
descend below minimums on an approach and
risk the life-long wrath of TC. Double jeopardy
doesn't apply to administrative law. Got that.
But let's say you're flying along, and you miss
at your destination, and off to your alternate
you go. The good news is that your alternate
has an ILS. The bad news is that it's gone
down below 200. Nowhere else to go, widespread
unforecast low ceilings. You don't have the gas
to fly an extra 1000 miles past your alternate.
The FTU and TC will tell you that this can NEVER
happen. The FTU and TC will tell you that the
TAF is NEVER wrong.
When you get to your alternate, you had best
be capable of flying the ILS right down to the
pavement.
No FTU teaches this.
Criminal negligence.
all of Canada, that teaches 0/0 approaches.
FTU's will teach you that it is better to die than
descend below minimums on an approach and
risk the life-long wrath of TC. Double jeopardy
doesn't apply to administrative law. Got that.
But let's say you're flying along, and you miss
at your destination, and off to your alternate
you go. The good news is that your alternate
has an ILS. The bad news is that it's gone
down below 200. Nowhere else to go, widespread
unforecast low ceilings. You don't have the gas
to fly an extra 1000 miles past your alternate.
The FTU and TC will tell you that this can NEVER
happen. The FTU and TC will tell you that the
TAF is NEVER wrong.
When you get to your alternate, you had best
be capable of flying the ILS right down to the
pavement.
No FTU teaches this.
Criminal negligence.
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Chuck Ellsworth
What do they teach?
I mentioned the ITCZ and was asked what that is by a licensed pilot.
Do they not teach meteorology anymore?
I mentioned the ITCZ and was asked what that is by a licensed pilot.
Do they not teach meteorology anymore?
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Colonel
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[quote]What do they teach?[/quote]
Hold entries and the infamous "Five
Degree Zone Of Inflexibility" as per
the IPM.
Now, is that good prioritization?
TC (and as follows, FTU) think an
instrument rating has more do to
with parade ground marching than
survival.
I really wish I was making this
insane crap up:
[img width=332 height=500][/img]
A neopyte IFR pilot could learn a lot more about
instrument flying by reading this instead:
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_52]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_52[/url]
But no one in flight training has ever heard of this:
[url=http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academic-experie ... ethod.aspx]http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academic-experie ... ethod.aspx[/url]
Because TC knows more about teaching than Harvard:
[img width=500 height=482][/img]
But what would I know about teaching and
aviation, compared to the hacks at TC? I
have only been flight instructing continuously
for a quarter of a century.
Hold entries and the infamous "Five
Degree Zone Of Inflexibility" as per
the IPM.
Now, is that good prioritization?
TC (and as follows, FTU) think an
instrument rating has more do to
with parade ground marching than
survival.
I really wish I was making this
insane crap up:
[img width=332 height=500][/img]
A neopyte IFR pilot could learn a lot more about
instrument flying by reading this instead:
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_52]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_52[/url]
But no one in flight training has ever heard of this:
[url=http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academic-experie ... ethod.aspx]http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academic-experie ... ethod.aspx[/url]
Because TC knows more about teaching than Harvard:
[img width=500 height=482][/img]
But what would I know about teaching and
aviation, compared to the hacks at TC? I
have only been flight instructing continuously
for a quarter of a century.
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Rookie Pilot
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"Flight instructing a quarter century".....
Why does that make you different than my industry?
I've only been running my business 20 years.
Snot nosed MBA's all paid for from mommy and daddy all think they know more than I do. No different.
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 4&t=108337
This thread for eg I don't get. The air of entitlement.
What happened to honouring a simple work ethic, paying your dues, hustle, drive?
Now it's all blame the customers. Sorry I just don't get it.
Then again I was never given 60K and coddled by Mommy and Daddy like most seem to get.
Why does that make you different than my industry?
I've only been running my business 20 years.
Snot nosed MBA's all paid for from mommy and daddy all think they know more than I do. No different.
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 4&t=108337
This thread for eg I don't get. The air of entitlement.
What happened to honouring a simple work ethic, paying your dues, hustle, drive?
Now it's all blame the customers. Sorry I just don't get it.
Then again I was never given 60K and coddled by Mommy and Daddy like most seem to get.
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