Pitts For Sale - Salvage

[Scudrunner]

Came across this ad on FB Aircraft for sale Canada group.

I know there’s and Okanogan contingent on here and of course fellow Pitts fans.

Looks like it was ground looped and he’s selling the remnants.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/pr ... b=listings

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[Colonel]

All that time and energy and money wasted, in a few seconds.

I know of a pilot that just wrecked an S-2B, amazingly during a runup. Nosed it over, destroyed the prop, engine, etc.

Why is that ok? None of these pilots face any kind of repercussions for their actions, where clearly there was no mechanical or Wx factor.

[Nark]

We face their wrath, through increased insurance premiums.

My 180 went up $100 from last year.

You don’t Evan want to know what I’m getting, as far as solicitations, for the Beech.

[Slick Goodlin]

Seems like the ad’s been taken down. Was it really $15k for a whole Pitts worth of parts or was that price just a sort of place holder?

[Colonel]

Insurance appears to be driven almost entirely by aircraft type, because that is easy for actuaries to differentiate.

They appear to be incapable of telling the difference between pilots who have accidents and those that don’t.

A pilot that lacks experience, has not received good training, or has had an accident before is probably 10x likely to have an accident in the future.

[Nark]

Exactly^^^

Taildragger, high performance… STOL.

Screw the person behind the control wheel that is over an 80% of the factor that damages the aircraft.
Let’s assume the whole airframe and community of pilots flying them, are the same.

As long as I have a BFR (2 year checkout with a flight instructor, 1 hour flight, 1 hour ground) I’m safe to be insured.

These guys seem to have fun:

[Scudrunner]

I heard through the grapevine this Pitts was inbound to an airport but a Mooney beat him in and landed gear up. He circled to see if they could clear the runway in a timely manner. By the time he diverted to another airport he lost power and landed short of a runway.

Can’t find a cadors but that’s what I was just informed.

[Squaretail]

or has had an accident before is probably 10x likely to have an accident in the future.

I can’t remember where, but I recall that it was about 50/50 whether a pilot with a previous accident, was going to have another, but they also noted that there were some outliers in the sample size where guys who had lots of accidents skewed it so there were lots of pilots who had one accident and a few who had lots of accidents, in other words counted multiple times in the sample size. I mean I know guys who boast of how many wrecks they have survived. If I think of all the pilots I know, there are lots who have no accidents, but there are also a lot who don’t do a lot of flying. There are some who have had one, even less who have had two. There are a handful who have had more than you can count on your hands. No one in the middle of the last two groups. I think the main indicator of the last group is a love of ultralights.

There is of course a lot of inaccuracy in those numbers. Lord knows when I have been actively airplane shopping, so many… let me rephrase to get it across omfg SO many airplanes with damage history where the pilot/owner would claim “accident free”. One guy I remember when I asked he said “well, no MAJOR accidents”…

[Colonel]

Funny how some people have accidents and others don’t.



What’s so hard about that?

[Squaretail]

I just thought it’s interesting how there’s people who have accidents, then there’s people who have LOTs of accidents. I mean when you’re crawling out of your tenth wreck, is it then that you think “hey I gotta do something different!”

I remember talking to one guy who was showing me his new flying helmet, because the lesson he learned from his fourth wreck, was “hey, that was close, next time I better protect my head!” Like the next crash was a mathematical certainty.

But one should mention that just because some folks haven’t done something newsworthy in a plane, doesn’t mean they aren’t trying. I mean you read about the guys who pass rides by the brute force method and you wonder why there isn’t some mechanism to bar them from flying. Not I guess that there would be any sort of effective method. Once in a too frequent while you read about some dude who never had a license, ever, kills his family in a king air or something.