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Colonel
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https://theaviatornetwork.com/pilot-tra ... uglas-dc3/

Looks ok, except it's in GA which is a long way from me.

Any other suggestions? Chuck, I blame you :^)


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I loathe the idea of buying a type rating but man oh man! If I had 18K and a converted ATPL to an FAA ATP I’d do it for shits and giggles alone!
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Since I have no intention of ever going to work as a DC-3 pilot,
I don't think there are any ethical issues with buying a type rating
to improve my skill and knowledge as a pilot.

It works for me, because I have TCA and FAA ATP's.

US$18k is the same price as one dual flight in a CF-104D in Florida,
which I think I will also do, when I have time. Time is the most precious
resource for me. I'm not Elon Musk - he works a lot harder than I do -
but he says in the last 12 years, he's tried to take a total of 10 days
off (and probably failed).

I tried to take one week off last summer. Something came up - doesn't
it always - and spent it at work. Jesus, the wife was pissed. I know a
guy, he was on vacation in Hawaii, a problem came up on the production
line, he was flown from Hawaii to another continent to solve the problem
during his week off. I can only imagine what his family thought of that.

Other type ratings I would dearly love (but I don't think I'll ever be able
to get the time off for) include C-46. This probably doesn't make sense
to the people that fly plastic airplanes, and that's ok.

I know I'm not a good person, but I have found over many decades that
if you fly really unusual aircraft, it noticeably increases your pilot skill and
knowledge. That's important to me. See, all my friends are dead, and
I'm not. Why is that?

Here's a picture that I took of a really unusual airplane:

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You know cat ladies? Old spinsters that have like 100 cats?

Image

That's me, except instead of cats, I have airplanes, motorcycles, guns and dogs.

People around me know better than to (and are afraid to) mention the subjects
of airplanes, or motorcycles, or guns, or dogs, because there's 20 minutes
of their life gone, that they'll never get back again.
David MacRay
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Plus a guy can get this real nice one for just a bit more than the cost of a C-185.

https://www.controller.com/listing/for- ... n-aircraft
Eric Janson
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David MacRay wrote:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:28 pm
Plus a guy can get this real nice one for just a bit more than the cost of a C-185.

https://www.controller.com/listing/for- ... n-aircraft
That is the nicest DC-3 I've ever seen. Shame it has the toothpick props and not the paddle props.

They were asking U$995,000 for it last year.

Still overpriced imho
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There's a saying about milk and a cow, but I can't remember it.
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IIRC there was an article in Flying Magazine about DC 3 training near LA , [Riverside?]
but I don't think they provided T. Ratings.
If all fails there is always F Chops
I do like the weirdness of the MH
There are only 3 kind of people in this world
Those that can add and those that can't
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Colonel wrote:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:23 am
Since I have no intention of ever going to work as a DC-3 pilot,
I don't think there are any ethical issues with buying a type rating
to improve my skill and knowledge as a pilot.

It works for me, because I have TCA and FAA ATP's.

US$18k is the same price as one dual flight in a CF-104D in Florida,
which I think I will also do, when I have time. Time is the most precious
resource for me. I'm not Elon Musk - he works a lot harder than I do -
but he says in the last 12 years, he's tried to take a total of 10 days
off (and probably failed).

I tried to take one week off last summer. Something came up - doesn't
it always - and spent it at work. Jesus, the wife was pissed. I know a
guy, he was on vacation in Hawaii, a problem came up on the production
line, he was flown from Hawaii to another continent to solve the problem
during his week off. I can only imagine what his family thought of that.

Other type ratings I would dearly love (but I don't think I'll ever be able
to get the time off for) include C-46. This probably doesn't make sense
to the people that fly plastic airplanes, and that's ok.

I know I'm not a good person, but I have found over many decades that
if you fly really unusual aircraft, it noticeably increases your pilot skill and
knowledge. That's important to me. See, all my friends are dead, and
I'm not. Why is that?

Here's a picture that I took of a really unusual airplane:

Image

You know cat ladies? Old spinsters that have like 100 cats?

Image

That's me, except instead of cats, I have airplanes, motorcycles, guns and dogs.

People around me know better than to (and are afraid to) mention the subjects
of airplanes, or motorcycles, or guns, or dogs, because there's 20 minutes
of their life gone, that they'll never get back again.

I couldn’t agree more! Time is money, where did all that time go and where’s my damn money!?

Nice pic of the Broussard.

I checked myself out on it around the time you must have taken that picture! Spent a couple of hours doing circuits with its new owner in Smith Falls to get him comfortable with it years back before he flew it back to his home base. She was a sweetheart to fly!

Now if only I had 36K to blow on a DC-3 type and an hour in a fast mover…. One can only dream I suppose!

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only I had 36K to blow
Yeah, but you will remember both (DC-3 and F-104) forever. I very clearly
recall flying the P-51D, about 30 years ago. Terribly expensive and worth
every penny. People thought I was crazy then, but no regrets.

This is hard to communicate, but I live in a really weird place. I went to get
some dog food the other day, and there was a fucking Bentley SUV parked
outside it. They're going to run you US$250k or US$300+k depending on the
options, out the door, taxes.

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If you're going to spend a quarter or a third of a million bucks on your fucking
ride to the pet food store, why not drop a few tens of thousands on something
worthwhile?

Riding my Honda Monkey through a parking lot the other day, I passed an
Alfa Romeo SUV, and a Maserati SUV parked near each other. And a whole
flock of Teslas. You should try out the Tesla Plaid.

I cannot describe this place adequately. I lack the words. Here's a guy down
the hangar row from me, with his perfect Waco (new? restored?) and his Tesla
100D. That's one fucking fast car, and a gorgeous biplane. That's normal here.

Image

I had lunch next to Steve Wozniak a while back in Saratoga. He drives a white
Tesla with a funny tag.

As my distant cousin that lived in Carmel-by-the-sea said, a Stranger In A Strange Land.

I know Dave is fixated on buying cows, but I just want some milk.
David MacRay
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Colonel wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:45 pm
There's a saying about milk and a cow, but I can't remember it.
The black angus tastes better but jerseys make more?
I quite like eating locally raised charolais myself.

I’m just browsing these days. I probably won’t bother to get enough land for cows and a nice grass landing strip.

If I do get silly, buy a DC-3 and get type checked on it, plus the border opens up more, I might fly it down in the winter so I can play disc golf, then perhaps you can try it.

In the unlikely event I actually continued to fly more and buy an airplane, it would much more likely be a Bearhawk Patrol, an RV8 or some model of ACA product,.
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