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So… it looks like a guy wheel landed a Harvard, the tail dropped and it veered left. Did I miss anything?
Shocking!
Harvard Mk II eats some corn in New York.
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Heard about that from Cam.
Puzzling. Grass is about the most forgiving surface you can land a taildragger
on in the summer. Only problem with Geneseo is the visuals - if you're blind
forward in the landing attitude, all you see is green green green everywhere
because there is no color contrast at the runway edge for your peripheral
vision. Like landing on a runway after a fresh snow.
Puzzling. Grass is about the most forgiving surface you can land a taildragger
on in the summer. Only problem with Geneseo is the visuals - if you're blind
forward in the landing attitude, all you see is green green green everywhere
because there is no color contrast at the runway edge for your peripheral
vision. Like landing on a runway after a fresh snow.
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I know of a Yale that somehow got the tailwheel locked 90° over prior to landing and it ended about the same way, I wonder if a Harvard can do the same?
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Yeah. Could be mechanical. Charlie Hillard had a bad day in 1996. IIRC he had a brake
lock up.
But grass ... it might dig in like a skid, but the tailwheel tire should just slide if it doesn't.
Most forgiving surface. You know that. You fly out of Murillo, right? You can land in a crab.
Try that on dry pavement.
The main problem with Geneseo is after it rains a lot, the grass at the east end of the
runway gets really soft. Mike nose over his spitfire there when his mains sank in a foot,
killed his prop. I helped him push it into the hangar. You wouldn't believe how he got it
home.
lock up.
But grass ... it might dig in like a skid, but the tailwheel tire should just slide if it doesn't.
Most forgiving surface. You know that. You fly out of Murillo, right? You can land in a crab.
Try that on dry pavement.
The main problem with Geneseo is after it rains a lot, the grass at the east end of the
runway gets really soft. Mike nose over his spitfire there when his mains sank in a foot,
killed his prop. I helped him push it into the hangar. You wouldn't believe how he got it
home.
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Was it grass? They wrote, “paved runway “ either way, I guess I should be nicer.
Fleet16b Cam? His AirVenture buddies were hilarious!
Here’s a bunch of pictures on YouTube. Certainly looks like grass.
Fleet16b Cam? His AirVenture buddies were hilarious!
Here’s a bunch of pictures on YouTube. Certainly looks like grass.
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There is no pavement at Geneseo. They call it "The Greatest Show On Turf",
at least while Rob and I and Eric were performing there![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
This is what I got from Cam:
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/ybUUlq8.jpg)
I see no pavement.
PS Cam is an awesome stick and a great guy.
at least while Rob and I and Eric were performing there
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
This is what I got from Cam:
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/ybUUlq8.jpg)
I see no pavement.
PS Cam is an awesome stick and a great guy.
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Yeah that’s the Cam I was thinking about.
Also, I don’t see the pavement either.
Also, I don’t see the pavement either.
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Well, I flew airshows at Geneseo for 15 years, so I probably don't know as much
about it as the Brain Trust™ on the other site.
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/4TNWjCz.jpg)
You like the crossover hammerhead we did there? It's not as tough as landing
a T-6 on grass, but we try. I'm the straight guy on the left, my 18 year old kid (at
the time) is the cowboy on the right doing the joinup during the pivot. I taught
him to fly, so he's probably not a very good pilot. TC must be right when they
say I am "qualified but not eligible" to hold an instructor rating in Canada. Eh.
I have many great pictures from Geneseo. I am quite fond of this one:
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/OcSa5Ea.jpg)
Looks like Eric and I are rolling in, on a strafing run!
But again, we aren't very good pilots and don't know very much about airshow
flying compared to the Keyboard Commandos on the other site, so you should
probably believe them when they talk about the "paved runway" at D52.
http://airnav.com/airport/D52
about it as the Brain Trust™ on the other site.
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/4TNWjCz.jpg)
You like the crossover hammerhead we did there? It's not as tough as landing
a T-6 on grass, but we try. I'm the straight guy on the left, my 18 year old kid (at
the time) is the cowboy on the right doing the joinup during the pivot. I taught
him to fly, so he's probably not a very good pilot. TC must be right when they
say I am "qualified but not eligible" to hold an instructor rating in Canada. Eh.
I have many great pictures from Geneseo. I am quite fond of this one:
![Image](https://i.imgur.com/OcSa5Ea.jpg)
Looks like Eric and I are rolling in, on a strafing run!
But again, we aren't very good pilots and don't know very much about airshow
flying compared to the Keyboard Commandos on the other site, so you should
probably believe them when they talk about the "paved runway" at D52.
http://airnav.com/airport/D52
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I just hope none of the delicious corn was ruined.
So I was hanging around their camp, drinking a beer Cam practically forced me to have for free.
He had this terrific leather WW I replica flight jacket. He brought it out to show us how it was hand stitched in a particular way they would have done in 1917. I asked, “May I see it.” Reaching my hand out. Cam looked frightened so I reassured him, “Don’t worry. I won’t try it on.”
One of his buds does a spit take and says something brutally obvious regarding how it wouldn’t fit. Something like, “You couldn’t get in that jacket!”
Maybe you had to be there. I still find it amusing.
So I was hanging around their camp, drinking a beer Cam practically forced me to have for free.
He had this terrific leather WW I replica flight jacket. He brought it out to show us how it was hand stitched in a particular way they would have done in 1917. I asked, “May I see it.” Reaching my hand out. Cam looked frightened so I reassured him, “Don’t worry. I won’t try it on.”
One of his buds does a spit take and says something brutally obvious regarding how it wouldn’t fit. Something like, “You couldn’t get in that jacket!”
Maybe you had to be there. I still find it amusing.
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