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Colonel
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Something that's incredibly helpful and important is never, ever mentioned ...

If you come from an aviation family, you should recognize that you have a HUGE
head start on some poor schmuck that wanders out to the airport and takes an
intro flight.

You don't have to be a genius to fly. But gosh, there are an awful lot of details,
and you never know which one is going to try to kill you today.

If you come from an aviation family - you were lucky enough to grow up around
airplanes - you probably don't realize it, but you know all sorts of stuff that's going
to keep you alive, later.

Some day, faced with a situation, that lifetime of knowledge will nudge you in one
direction instead of the other. You will not bend tin, and people won't die.

It's weird that people deny this. I remember a guy, who virtue signalled that he
"did it all himself" in aviation, without any help from his parents.

BULLSHIT, I told him. Your father has an ATP and PhD, is a fucking astronaut,
owns a Pitts S-2A and flew the goddamned Silver Dart replica. Regardless of
whatever financial assistance you did or did not receive, the lifetime of aviation
knowledge you grew up with is of enormous value.

What you know. How you think. How you solve problems. He's kind of a tool, to
posture like that, in his circumstance. His father teaches at University and at the
International Test Pilot School, and we're supposed to think that he didn't learn
anything from his father, growing up. BULLSHIT.

I grew up in an aviation family. I had no fucking choice, so I might as well take
up flying airplanes, and be the best I could at it.

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Maybe it's a Canadian thing, to virtue signal that you didn't learn anything from
your family growing up. Down here, look at aviation. Look at NASCAR. Look at
shooting. Growing up in a family like that has a HUGE advantage.

Matt Younkin is a third generation pilot. He is the son of legendary airshow pilot Bobby Younkin, who is famous for his amazing aerobatic displays in the AT-6, Beech 18, Learjet 23, Samson, and most recently, the Super Decathlon. Bobby is considered to be one of the greatest airshow pilots of all time.

Matt is also the grandson of Jim Younkin who is well-known for designing the Century and Trutrak autopilots. Jim is also famous for his antique aircraft restorations, as well as building beautiful replicas of the 1930’s air racers such as the Howard “Mr. Mulligan” and the Travel Air “Mystery Ship.”


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Colonel
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I'm probably the only person that enjoys watching cockpit videos of
superb professionals fly surface aerobatics in transport aircraft over
populated areas, but here's another:



An old pro. That guy didn't learn to fly in the 21st Century, did he?
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Slick Goodlin
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As the only pilot in my family I guess I’m doomed.
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That wasn't really the point. It's wonderful if you grew up in aviation, but
the question arises: how to store/transfer that information for those who
didn't?

Assuming the mythical pilot that first visited an airport at age 16 and
started flying lessons ...

It's that first 10 years of flying, where that deficit can be noticed. After
20 (certainly 30) years as a pilot, I don't think anyone can argue that
knowledge and skill are asymptotic and nearly unchanging:

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Ignore the markings on the axes - the shape of the curve is what's important
to understanding the data.

Ages 15-25 are the vulnerable years. After someone is 45 with 30 years of
flying, they've shown you what they've got. They're not going to change much
any time soon, except for their physical facilities which will degrade.
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Slick Goodlin
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Colonel wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:44 pm It's wonderful if you grew up in aviation, but
the question arises: how to store/transfer that information for those who
didn't?
I think those who didn’t have an aviation family just have to want it more if they’re going to be any good. With the exception of a few notable sociopaths the good pilots I know who have done it alone all are observant and have tons of humility.

And I cheated, I hung out with tons of cool pilots.
Eric Janson
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Colonel wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:44 pm That wasn't really the point. It's wonderful if you grew up in aviation, but
the question arises: how to store/transfer that information for those who
didn't?
I can only speak for myself and my experiences.

I started from basically zero (I'm the only Pilot in the family) - but flying isn't something you just do alone. Throughout my career I've flown/worked with plenty of people who have shared their knowledge and insights with me. That continues to be the case although now it's often me sharing what I've learned with others.

Even in the worst cases - I learned how not to do things and how not to act.

I've never added it up but I must have 1000 hours as Joe McBryan's co-pilot. To say that I owe him my career is an understatement. Learned a lot about a lot working for him. Ended up with a CV that very few others have.

Things I learned at Buffalo have kept me out of trouble over the years.
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