I'm a Canadian who wants to fly American planes
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Slick Goodlin
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Over the course of a couple moves and being busy with other things I've managed to lose all of my notes on this one. I seem to recall it was possible to get some sort of FAA waiver that says as long as I'm able to fly a plane in Canada, I'm okay to act as a private pilot in the US. Does that ring any bells? Does anyone have the exact FAR for that one handy, or better still a link to the right paperwork to get started on?
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vanNostrum
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Slick Goodlin
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That looks like exactly what I was after. Thanks!
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Colonel
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I have answered this question over the years, many times.
When an N-registered aircraft is in Canada, the FAA is happy
for you to fly it with your Canadian pilot licence.
When a C-registered aircraft is in the USA, TC will not prosecute
you if you fly it with your FAA pilot certificate. My father did that
for many years, after TC yanked his Canadian medical - he flew
airshows in the USA on his current FAA COMM w/class 2 medical,
even though he could not fly in Canada. Thanks, Arlo and Jim!
This is in the CARs and the FARs.
When an N-registered aircraft is in Canada, the FAA is happy
for you to fly it with your Canadian pilot licence.
When a C-registered aircraft is in the USA, TC will not prosecute
you if you fly it with your FAA pilot certificate. My father did that
for many years, after TC yanked his Canadian medical - he flew
airshows in the USA on his current FAA COMM w/class 2 medical,
even though he could not fly in Canada. Thanks, Arlo and Jim!
This is in the CARs and the FARs.
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Slick Goodlin
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All true but I also want the ability to be down in the US, have some guy offer me his Cub to fly, then be able to take him up on it without breaking any rules. I recognize that physics doesn't understand paperwork but my employment is tied to my clean record with the regulator and I'd like to keep that intact.
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Colonel
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If you want to fly N-registered aircraft in USA, then you most
certainly will require an FAA pilot certificate of some kind.
As a Canadian, there are many different ways to acquire an
FAA pilot certificate:
1) straight up. Go to an FBO and do the written and flight
tests as if you were a normal person. No Canadian does this.
2) FAR 61.75: FAA will give a private pilot certificate to the
holder of an ICAO PPL/CPL/APTL. No medical, no flight test,
no written test. Probably your best option. They used to hand
them out at OSH, years back. Really.
3) IPL. As a Canadian, if you hold PPL, you can get FAA private,
if you hold CPL, you can get FAA COMM, if you hold ATPL, you
can get FAA ATP via IPL reciprocity which is a Cdn-USA thing.
Requires a medical and a dinky written test, no flight test.
The advantage of #1 and #3 is that your FAA pilot certificate is
"self-standing" which is NOT the case with #2 which requires you
to keep the underlying ICAO pilot licence valid.
There are many traps with the above. See
a) BFR
b) HP/complex endorsement
c) tailwheel endorsement
d) high altitude endorsement
Few Canadians give a shit about any of the above, but they
are still applicable.
certainly will require an FAA pilot certificate of some kind.
As a Canadian, there are many different ways to acquire an
FAA pilot certificate:
1) straight up. Go to an FBO and do the written and flight
tests as if you were a normal person. No Canadian does this.
2) FAR 61.75: FAA will give a private pilot certificate to the
holder of an ICAO PPL/CPL/APTL. No medical, no flight test,
no written test. Probably your best option. They used to hand
them out at OSH, years back. Really.
3) IPL. As a Canadian, if you hold PPL, you can get FAA private,
if you hold CPL, you can get FAA COMM, if you hold ATPL, you
can get FAA ATP via IPL reciprocity which is a Cdn-USA thing.
Requires a medical and a dinky written test, no flight test.
The advantage of #1 and #3 is that your FAA pilot certificate is
"self-standing" which is NOT the case with #2 which requires you
to keep the underlying ICAO pilot licence valid.
There are many traps with the above. See
a) BFR
b) HP/complex endorsement
c) tailwheel endorsement
d) high altitude endorsement
Few Canadians give a shit about any of the above, but they
are still applicable.
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Slick Goodlin
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=8986.msg24601#msg24601 date=1536258377]
There are many traps with the above. See
a) BFR
b) HP/complex endorsement
c) tailwheel endorsement
d) high altitude endorsement
[/quote]
As I understand it, the validated foreign license accepts Canadian flight tests in place of BFRs so I'm good there. I'd have to find someone to sign off my tailwheel endorsement and for the time being I could take or leave the HP/high alt world, at least as pertains to fun flying. I wonder if I could sweet talk the FSDO into signing them if I bring my logbook as proof of having done it.
There are many traps with the above. See
a) BFR
b) HP/complex endorsement
c) tailwheel endorsement
d) high altitude endorsement
[/quote]
As I understand it, the validated foreign license accepts Canadian flight tests in place of BFRs so I'm good there. I'd have to find someone to sign off my tailwheel endorsement and for the time being I could take or leave the HP/high alt world, at least as pertains to fun flying. I wonder if I could sweet talk the FSDO into signing them if I bring my logbook as proof of having done it.
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Colonel
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I doubt it.
They are just logbook endorsements by any CFI - you
need to find one with a pen.
See FAR 61.31 for the details.
Note that you are exempt (like me) from the requirement for
complex/HP if you logged PIC on them before Aug 1997, or
for tailwheel, April 1991.
One of the few nice things about being old. Like
cheap insurance. Did I tell you that it only cost me
$66 to add my RC51 to my insurance policy? No typo.
[img width=500 height=261][/img]
In Canada, that's a blacklisted sportbike. If you can
get insurance at all, it will be prohibitively expensive.
[img width=500 height=375]https://i2.wp.com/blog.jpcycles.com/wp- ... yden-1.jpg[/img]
They are just logbook endorsements by any CFI - you
need to find one with a pen.
See FAR 61.31 for the details.
Note that you are exempt (like me) from the requirement for
complex/HP if you logged PIC on them before Aug 1997, or
for tailwheel, April 1991.
One of the few nice things about being old. Like
cheap insurance. Did I tell you that it only cost me
$66 to add my RC51 to my insurance policy? No typo.
[img width=500 height=261][/img]
In Canada, that's a blacklisted sportbike. If you can
get insurance at all, it will be prohibitively expensive.
[img width=500 height=375]https://i2.wp.com/blog.jpcycles.com/wp- ... yden-1.jpg[/img]
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David MacRay
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Can you give me a fake type check on some increadible plane I'll never actually fly?
The list is huge and probably includes pretty much anything with more than one piston engine, but what I meant was something like...
Dehaveland Arrow, ME-163 Komet or the SR-71
It could make it worth getting an FAA certificate.
The list is huge and probably includes pretty much anything with more than one piston engine, but what I meant was something like...
Dehaveland Arrow, ME-163 Komet or the SR-71
It could make it worth getting an FAA certificate.
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