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vanNostrum
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[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=8086.msg22450#msg22450 date=1521248091]

In fact I just got my medical back so I can fly the thing.


My last medical was done in Amsterdam in 2004 and my last medical in Canada was done around 1996 as I recall.


Chuck. E.
[/quote]

I heard that CAMEs make it more difficult if the medical has lapsed for
a long time
Were you able to get a Cat 1?


Colonel
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[quote]I had many times flown a car accident victim from the interior to the big city.  Not once had I flown a motorcycle accident victim, but we did [b]numerous trips taking the body snatchers up to harvest body parts after a motorcycle accident[/b].

Figured there was a lesson in there somewhere[/quote]

Live fast, die young and leave a good-looking corpse?

When I got my driver's licences here, I filled out the organ
donor card but told them if anything happened, they probably
wouldn't want what was left over and besides I'm too goddamned
old and everything is worn out anyways.

Most of my friends have died in airplanes over the decades,
but I keep on flying.  The odds of being Jimmy Doolittle or
Bob Hoover and dying of old age are not good, but I suppose
one should try anyways.

You should see the locals lane-split through stopped traffic
on the highways here.  It is breath-taking, and you don't learn
that in one year.  When I started, I thought 25 mph was fast -
heh.  Up to 45 mph through stopped traffic now, but the
locals are [b]over 70 mph between the parked cars[/b].  Awesome
to watch the youngsters do their thing.

FWIW I have noticed that many motorcycle accidents occur
when middle-aged men jump on a Harley for the first time.
They haven't paid their dues and learned the craft, but no
one wants to hear that in aviation, either.  Very similarly
to aviation, the guys with the mid-life crises on the Harleys
want to wear the costume that they haven't earned. 

You know, posers.
JW Scud
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=8086.msg22460#msg22460 date=1521303027]
FWIW I have noticed that many motorcycle accidents occur
when middle-aged men jump on a Harley for the first time.
They haven't paid their dues and learned the craft, but no
one wants to hear that in aviation, either.  Very similarly
to aviation, the guys with the mid-life crises on the Harleys
want to wear the costume that they haven't earned. 
[/quote]


Well, you bring up an interesting point. I might like to try a little bit of motorcycling at some point and have zero experience. What would be your suggested experience route, keeping in mind that only a limited amount of overall experience is desired. What should one do before the Harley?
Chuck Ellsworth

[quote][font=verdana]I heard that CAMEs make it more difficult if the medical has lapsed for [/font][font=verdana]a long time Were you able to get a Cat 1?[/font][/quote][font=verdana]




The physical exam by the doctor was very thorough and took quite a long time compared to when I was getting my medicals every six months.


I must have passed that part because he gave me requests for a EKG which I have taken.


I also have to get a blood test done by a lab which I have not done yet, I will do it next week.


I take regular medicals once a year with my family doctor and he is way more demanding than the T.C. exam is so I should pass.


If I don't get my medical back it is no big deal as having flown over fifty years for a living I don't really care if I get my license renewed or not.  :) [/font]

[font=verdana]Oh, by the way back to the subject.[/font]

[font=verdana]I think I am a little late to make it to the big leagues. [/font] :)
woodzi

[quote author=JW Scud link=topic=8086.msg22461#msg22461 date=1521305794]
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=8086.msg22460#msg22460 date=1521303027]
FWIW I have noticed that many motorcycle accidents occur
when middle-aged men jump on a Harley for the first time.
They haven't paid their dues and learned the craft, but no
one wants to hear that in aviation, either.  Very similarly
to aviation, the guys with the mid-life crises on the Harleys
want to wear the costume that they haven't earned. 
[/quote]


Well, you bring up an interesting point. I might like to try a little bit of motorcycling at some point and have zero experience. What would be your suggested experience route, keeping in mind that only a limited amount of overall experience is desired. What should one do before the Harley?
[/quote]


Learn to ride in the dirt. It is so much fun, you probably won’t ever want to ride on the street, but if you do, learning to ride in the dirt will teach you the bike handling skills you will need. 
Colonel
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[quote]Learn to ride in the dirt[/quote]

Best advice ever.

Years ago, the NTSB did a study on why airline pilots had accidents,
and the only conclusion they reached is that [b]the earlier a pilot learned
to fly, the less likely he was to have an accident[/b].  The NTSB theorized
that pilots that learned to fly earlier, flew the airplane more automatially
and had more time to think about what was going on and were more likely
to better deal with a challenging situation.

The above is [b]not[/b] a non sequitur with respect to riding a motorcycle.

To the great dismay of my first ex-wife, my son spent 10 years riding his
cherished Honda dirtbike - I got a great deal on it, it was new and dropped
once - before he turned 16 and got his street learner's permits for driving
and riding on the street.

Here's the thing. 

[b]Riding in traffic, you need to spent 95% of your brain power on threat analysis, leaving 5% of your brain to operate the motorcycle.[/b]

When you start riding, 95% of your brain will be used to operate the
motorcycle.  Over time, that percentage will drop as it becomes more
automatic and ingrained - shifting gears, maneuvering the bike.

To safely ride a motorcycle on the street, you need to do the following:

1) [b]Look[/b].  Chin up, head on a swivel.  Look as far ahead as you can to
stay ahead of the bike.  Keep your head on a swivel so that you are
very aware of what is around you.

2) [b]Think[/b].  Do not relax, do not daydream.  In traffic, you cannot relax.
Andy Grove says only the paranoid survive.  Perform [b]constant threat
analysis[/b] - what are those guys going to do?  If they do it, what will
I do?  Do not commit the error of target fixation.  More than one
person wants to kill you.  Assume that no one can see you, and
everyone wants to kill you.  Try to make yourself visible.  Flash
your headlight.  Weave back and forth.  Have fun lane splitting
at night in the rain.

3) Be an [b]expert rider.[/b]  See above.  You must automatically and
expertly operate the motorcycle using 5% of your brain, because
you need to spend 95% of your brain power looking around and
trying to figure out what other people are going to do.  Spend as
much time in the dirt as you can, then learn about counter-steering
which if you know what a metal prop is, will come naturally.

Free advice:

A)  [b]slow in, fast out[/b].  Always enter a corner slower than you think
you need to.  Learn what the racing line is.  A = V^^2/R.  Try not
to brake in a corner because your tires are already working hard.
Do your braking hard, in a straight line, before the corner.  On a
sport bike, become comfortable getting the rear tire in the air
during hard braking at over 100 mph.  Lean the bike over, learn
body positioning.  Accelerate out of the corner after the apex,
which stands the bike up.

B) [b]The left turning car or SUV will kill you[/b].  They will not see you.
These left turners are either opposite direction, or on a side street
and they do not see bicycles or motorcycles and even if they do,
they are happy to kill you.  A car or truck hits you, they need to
call a tow truck, you need a hearse.

C) Keep your bike in perfect condition, either by doing your own
maintenance or contracting it out.  You must have complete
confidence in your hardware.  I buy the most expensive tires
legal for the street, and I am always aware of their temperature
and the pavement temperature.  That tiny contact patch, smaller
than your hand, is all you have.  I carefully monitor tire pressure -
front tire pressure makes a huge difference in turning, and riding
two up I really bump up the rear tire pressure, and after I stop, I
put my hand on the rear tire to monitor the temperature - I don't
want too much sidewall deflection.

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tl;dr

Motorcycle riding is like flying.  It's great fun and can be vastly
rewarding, but ride within your limits and remember that both can
be terribly unforgiving of newbie mistakes.

If your circumstances permit, get a dirtbike - nothing bigger than
150cc four stroke is required - and spend at least a year riding it
without any traffic.  A nice light bike.  If nothing else you will learn
to ride without perfect traction (dirt, gravel).  Many street riders
panic when they are on anything but dry pavement.

http://powersports.honda.com/2018/crf12 ... ngine.aspx

If you're into crotch rockets, consider taking a track day course.

Like aviation, motorcycling is applied physics.  Learn the systems
(what is a false neutral?), develop your skill.

Oh yeah, take the MSF course.  I've taken it twice - once in Canada,
and once in the US - and while the differences were amusing, both
were worthwhile.  Like flying, you will learn that much of riding is
quite subjective and silly.  Lot of style silliness.  Learn to look past
that irrelevant crap and figure out what's important.

In my experience, motorcycle riding is very similar to flying.  You
will spend many years learning and developing skills and collecting
tools.  It is greatly satisfying, if you are in it for the long haul.

Unfortunately 99.9% of the human race is into instant gratification
with no concern for long-term consequences, which is why they
like to shove cocaine up their noses and sovereign debt.
Colonel
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Sport bikes are the intersection of engineering and art.

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If that doesn't stir your soul, you are dead inside.

[img width=500 height=281]https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images ... 0382_1.jpg[/img]

Remember: top end [b]makes[/b] the power, and bottom end [b]takes[/b] the power.
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