How to be Uber-Cool During Spin Training

[DeflectionShot]

I'm impressed by any guy that has his arm resting on an open window during spin training.



If he was sipping a my-tai with an umbrella I would be even more impressed.

[Trey Kule]

I thought that was a pretty well made video.


Though, personally I do not like the”  just let everything go .” ....but to be fair he did mention that it did not work for every plane...i wonder how may students will get that “but” part.

[Colonel]

It is a very good lesson for pilots to learn,
that often the airplane flies better if they
stop doing stuff.

The pilots of Colgan 3407 and AF 447 might
still be alive if they had let go instead of
pulling back as hard as they could

[Slick Goodlin]

[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=7435.msg20419#msg20419 date=1510081556]
The pilots of Colgan 3407
[/quote]
That one sucked for many reasons but among them was that NASA and the FAA had been cramming the idea down pilots' throats that stalls in icing were tailplane stalls.  IIRC they scared the crap out of themselves on an icing study in a Twotter and really pushed it.  Since then they've gone back on their position after testing a bunch of other types with fake ice on the tail.

[Trey Kule]

Yes, they probably would have been alive,  my point was the ‘ but it does not apply to every aircraft’


I think it is very important to emphasize this to students. 
You simply do not want a student going to let go as a default.


Anyway, the tail plane stall recovery is a shole different isdue.  I have a link to that twin otter in icing vid somewhere.

[Colonel]

[quote]You simply do not want a student going to let go as a default[/quote]

Would that really be worse than hauling on a bucket of AOA?

I would agree that a skilled pilot on the stick is probably
better than letting go, but as time goes by, there are less
and less of those.  Hence my continual grumpiness.

Fun fact:  I suspect many pilots these days could log their
time spent in slow flight in [i]seconds[/i].

Now, you'll have to pardon me - I need to go shout at a
cloud.

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[Colonel]

Spender Suderman tried hands-on vs hand-off spin recovery.

The results may surprise you.

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Check the altitude loss for Beggs-Mueller - considerably
better than using the "correct" inputs, which I think it's
fair to say, that most pilots won't perform as well as
Spencer did.

In the aerobatic community, some people recommend
using [i]both hands[/i] to pull the throttle back.  Not only
does this really get the power off, it forces them to
let go of the stick, and allow the flight controls to trail.

Remember how pilots love to pick up a dropping wing
with aileron?  Their instincts are wrong.  They aren't
stupid - they just haven't received sufficient correct
training to learn correct, new instincts.

[Trey Kule]

I did not find this video to be the same caliber as the OP video, as far as a teaching aid.


Anyway, arguing over casual comments I made is really a waste of time.  To each their own when it comes to teaching.

[Colonel]

um, that video wasn't a teaching aid.  It was a wonderful
demonstration that often [i]pilots make things worse[/i].

Pilots struggle terribly with this concept.  Like Air Canada
pilots that are [b]certain[/b] they can't ever make a mistake, pilots
believe that when they pee in the soup, it improves the
flavour.
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Don't do this:
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Do this:
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[Gravel Digger]

I'm dying to know the stories behind the pics.