Experimental Plane Crashes into Airliner Boneyard.

[David MacRay]

Wow, that sounds pretty amazing. I am fairly sure it would be in that MOA R-2515.

Could you see the desert surface markings from around Palmdale and Mohave area looking into Edwards? I would think at 10000' you might but maybe not since you would only be around 6000' AGL.

I love the rocket symbol beside Mohave airport.

Edit: I just looked again and it is definately Rogers Lake right beside Edwards base, there is a triple runway marking going from the main base up to the north base and the circle is a rather giant compass rose.

[Colonel]

I think I did see some lines on the desert between me and Edwards
AFB running east-west but I will admit I really wasn't looking for them -
I just wanted to stay out of the restricted airspace.

[quote]MOA R-2515[/quote]

MOA's, restricted and prohibited airspace are all quite different.

You can fly right through MOA's.  The sectionals have a panel
describing altitudes, times, freqs, etc.  And FSS can give you
more information about them, too.

I never have the balls to fly through restricted airspace, but
there was continuous traffic - probably IFR - trying to snivel
a shortcut through R-2515 from Joshua MOA FAC 133.65

Prohibited airspace?  Don't go there.

I will get shat upon for this, but I really don't like VFR
flight following.  Instead of peaceful silence, or music
piped into my intercom, I get to hear a bunch of PPL's
yammering away, that love the sound of their own voice
and just can't get enough of it.

Just [b]shut up and fly[/b].  Less is more, on the radio.

I am lucky enough to have a #2 that hates the radio
more than I do.  He had it turned down, pretty much
the whole way out here.  He never talks to ATC,
just follows me.

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Most people think I'm a moron compared to them,
but every once in a while someone does what I
suggest.  My #2 did.  He got his solo and formation
SAC when he was 19, and during his undergrad
engineering did a double minor in math & physics
and got an exemption in 4th year to take a graduate
level Embedded Systems course that he said was
an entire year's worth of work.  Wrote verilog for
an AES crypto chip.  I think I have it in my email
if you want it.

[David MacRay]

I presume the restricted area is always active. I noticed it did have a spot low down that allowed a bit larger pattern for Mohave.

I go around all the special areas unless I have good reason to be in them, such as a practice area that I am using for it's intended purpose.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

An interesting side story about those jets parked in the infield at Mojave.


The guy who I did the flying for owned a couple of tanker trucks he used to de-fuel the jets once they were permanently parked in the field, he then used the fuel to fly is own collection of jets which was really interesting and included a Mig 21.


My favourite among his collection was the F100 Super Sabre.