Ass Kissing - A Canadian - epidemic.

[Rookie Pilot]

I can post this HERE, gents.


I don't kiss ass.  Ever.  Not when I had a job, certainly not when I'm running a business.  Maybe it's me, and I get what being a man is, but when I had a job, and my company made decisions -- or tried -- I didn't think were good for my customers, or me, I'd go to the boss and tell him, no way.


Not happening. Never got fired, either, cause I stood up for principles. Never afraid to lose my job.


Not the pilots I'm reading about on the Air Transat thread, either quoted at the hearing, or the Pom Pom apologists and cheerleaders -- let's call it what it is, trolls -- commenting "over there".    All saying just what they think their bosses at that company want to hear. Pilots at the hearing,  contradicting every passenger testimony that night, cause they are afraid to tell their bosses any truth.


You're the kind that would never stand up to the company, and say "I'm not doing this flight". Too dangerous. Coward.


Can't discuss anything with cheerleaders, rationally.  Waste of time.


You know what?  You're all gutless, spineless cowards, and a sorry excuse for a man, too. Don't get you at all, if you fit in the category.  Go home to mommys basement.


Ahhhh.  Feel better. That I'm not one of you. 

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Where is the discussion you are addressing?

[Colonel]

[quote]I don't kiss ass[/quote]

You can do that, but it will cost you terribly.

A friend of mine had all his aircraft logbooks permanently
seized a couple years ago, I suspect simply because TC
knew he was a friend of mine.

They still have my laptop and phone, remember, and have
no plans on ever returning them to me.

Once TC learns that you won't kiss their ass, you will be
surprised at the lengths that they will go, to destroy you,
your family and your friends.

A doctor at TC told me that they put a "no aerobatics"
restriction on my father's medical, as revenge for Hanover,
to kill our airshow career.

Thanks, Chris and Arlo!

I very carefully try to stay at least 1000 miles away from
Canada, at all times now.  I have learned my lesson.  It's
a very dangerous place.

[Rookie Pilot]

[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=7023.msg18924#msg18924 date=1504748279]
Where is the discussion you are addressing?
[/quote]


http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 5&t=117958

[Eric Janson]

The "head on" approach may not always be the best strategy.

I've also lost a job by upsetting the wrong people. In hindsight I could have done things differently. No regrets - things have worked out.

Sometimes it's better to wait. There's no point in fighting a losing battle imho.

It's important to chose your fights.

[Colonel]

It may seem obvious, but arguing with
someone when you are correct is sure
to enrage them.

When someone is powerful, vengeful
and wrong, don't argue with them.

[Rookie Pilot]

Oh, I forgot. AC.


Hard landing, YHZ.


"Nothing to see, go around" -- SFO. 


This isn't a matter of opinion, or context.  You're just wrong. End of story. 


You calling it that  -- and a lot of you are  on the "other" site -- - - yeah I get you are AC employees, or part of the fan club.  Are you seriously professional pilots to call it that?  Funny I don't read this BS on PPrune. Seems a more professional crowd over there.  Not the Canadian pansy fan club. 


Let me know when you're commanding an aircraft I'm on. I'll get off, with my family. 


Don't deserve any bars, let alone four bars.  Don't deserve your license. 


I call you ass kissing cowards.


That clear enough for everyone?

[JW Scud]

[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=7023.msg18925#msg18925 date=1504756262]
[quote]I don't kiss ass[/quote]

They still have my laptop and phone, remember, and have
no plans on ever returning them to me.

[/quote]


How did they get your laptop. Did you just give to the inspector when he asked for it?

[Colonel]

I have a bad habit of doing what people with guns
tell me to do.  I understand you are a ninja bad-ass
and like Chuck Norris, don't need to do that.

I don't live in Canada any more.  Don't like the gangsters
that run the place.  I've never been to Russia, but it's
probably similar.

[Liquid Charlie]

I guess if you want to be a big ballsy type of guy and pound on your chest and say "I kiss no one's ass" all the more power to you but like most things there likely a far better approach to accomplish the same results and not piss everyone off and have people think you are a total idiot. I never liked trying to push a chain is just never seems to work. The trick is to able to get you point across and have people respect your decision. Oh ya -- I think it's called psychology. It's doesn't matter if it's right or wrong if you can't correct it. I have found approaching people like a freight train seldom has a positive outcome. People will do the opposite even if it's wrong and all you have done is burned your bridges and not corrected the problem. There is always at least 2 sides to an issue and more often than naught there are many factors. Your view of the problem might not necessarily be the total picture. I see it every day, pilots trying to out guess company and corporate decisions. They never have the "full" and complete picture. My answer to them is "just do your job"