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Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:51 pm
by Slick Goodlin
Colonel wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:11 pm
The photos of the impact scene are bizarre. The tiny bits scattered around are not even
recognizable as aircraft parts.
Cue the “It WaS a MiSsiLe” crew to start their YouTube investigations…

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:36 pm
by vanNostrum
Rosco P Coltrane wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:55 pm
vanNostrum wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:14 pm
Is the tail missing?
Looks like a missile
Terrifying last moments for all onboard RIP
There’s a screenshot from a video floating around, the tail is missing, but tough to say, who knows if it’s real or not.
How much does the tail weight?
If the tail broke off would the CG shift forward enough to cause the vertical dive?

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:41 pm
by Colonel
Saw an "expert" on TV declare that nothing like this had ever happened before.

1997 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185 (B737)
1999 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990 (B767)
2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_ ... Flight_370 (B777)
2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525 (A320)

Interesting common theme in all of the above - the political agencies
responsible for investigating, do everything they can to avoid concluding
pilot suicide, including over-riding the investigators in the final report.

Apparently, pilots never commit suicide. Right?

And what's the point of having technical investigators if the political
appointees are going to ignore them in the accident report? Why not
just have the political appointees write the entire report and let the
technical people go do something else useful instead of wasting
their time?

I have $20 that if they ever find the jackscrew for this 737 that crashed,
it's going to be trimmed full nose down. The wings produce enormous
lift at those speeds, at least until you encounter trans-sonic stall and
mach tuck.

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:38 pm
by TundraTire
Black box data is showing this to be an intentional act.

Multiple news agencies are reporting this today.

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:02 pm
by Colonel
Well, that sure came as a surprise to me!

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 3:14 am
by Scudrunner
Can't wait for the political officer in the cockpit to keep an eye on the pilots.

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 4:08 am
by Colonel
If the pattern of history is any indication, we can expect to see yet another "split"
accident result report, with the nation of the pilot saying "undetermined cause" and
other nations saying suicide.

It's really hard to have any respect for accident investigation boards. They are
political animals serving their masters.

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 5:55 am
by Nark
If it was the the TSB, this would be called a “hard landing.”

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 5:19 pm
by Colonel
Image

Re: China Eastern 737 crash March 21/2022

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:13 pm
by Nark
“3.12 g’s upon landing”

Yeah, I’d say that’s a “hard landing.”

http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-r ... f0065.html