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Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:38 pm
by Eric Janson
Page has a link to download the report in .pdf format and a video explaining the final maneuver.
[url=https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aircraf ... ugust-2015]
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aircraf ... ugust-2015[/url]

Looks like Colonel Sanders was correct - too low/too slow and correct top gate not achieved.

Interesting to note that the Pilot hadn't been trained how to escape from this maneuver - that's a bit strange. Surely that is part of aerobatic training?


Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:42 pm
by John Swallow
Not trained to escape from a loop?  Sombody's telling porkies.  How about a half-roll and exit via a Cuban 8?

There were things he could have done to salvage the situation, but I think that a brain fart was involved... 

Commencing the manoeuvre from lower than authorized...  Not a problem if you recognize it and it is deliberate.

Not using full power...  A puzzler and not easy to explain unless brainfart. 

Not realizing insufficient altitude gained...  A puzzler and not easy to explain unless brainfart.

Not rolling out when faced with the obvious...  A puzzler and...  etc.

It's almost like he was along for the ride and not really participating in the manoeuvre... 

Brainfart?  Hangover?  TIA? 

I have entered loops in a T-33 at 500 AGL and at 165 KIAS.  Successfully, obviously. Judicious use of flaps and power were key.  (Do not try this at home; I was young and single...) 






Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:29 pm
by TundraTire
Given that the pilot survived, I wonder if he'll be subject to criminal/civil proceedings in light of those findings?

Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:58 am
by Eric Janson
[quote author=TundraTire link=topic=5755.msg15107#msg15107 date=1488641351]
Given that the pilot survived, I wonder if he'll be subject to criminal/civil proceedings in light of those findings?
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Having gone through the entire report my guess would be yes - 11 dead in an avoidable crash.

Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:00 pm
by John Swallow
Eric:

Do you know if the facts established by the AAIB can be used in a civil suit, or would the litigants have to start from scratch?

J

Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:50 pm
by Eric Janson
[quote author=John Swallow link=topic=5755.msg15114#msg15114 date=1488726013]
Eric:

Do you know if the facts established by the AAIB can be used in a civil suit, or would the litigants have to start from scratch?

J
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John

I'm not a lawyer or any kind of legal expert - but after reading through the report there seem to be some things that can be used in a civil suit at the very minimum.