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Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:38 pm
by Eric Janson
Page has a link to download the report in .pdf format and a video explaining the final maneuver.
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https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aircraf ... ugust-2015]
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/aircraf ... ugust-2015[/url]
Looks like Colonel Sanders was correct - too low/too slow and correct top gate not achieved.
Interesting to note that the Pilot hadn't been trained how to escape from this maneuver - that's a bit strange. Surely that is part of aerobatic training?
Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:42 pm
by John Swallow
Not trained to escape from a loop? Sombody's telling porkies. How about a half-roll and exit via a Cuban 8?
There were things he could have done to salvage the situation, but I think that a brain fart was involved...
Commencing the manoeuvre from lower than authorized... Not a problem if you recognize it and it is deliberate.
Not using full power... A puzzler and not easy to explain unless brainfart.
Not realizing insufficient altitude gained... A puzzler and not easy to explain unless brainfart.
Not rolling out when faced with the obvious... A puzzler and... etc.
It's almost like he was along for the ride and not really participating in the manoeuvre...
Brainfart? Hangover? TIA?
I have entered loops in a T-33 at 500 AGL and at 165 KIAS. Successfully, obviously. Judicious use of flaps and power were key. (Do not try this at home; I was young and single...)
Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:29 pm
by TundraTire
Given that the pilot survived, I wonder if he'll be subject to criminal/civil proceedings in light of those findings?
Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:58 am
by Eric Janson
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Given that the pilot survived, I wonder if he'll be subject to criminal/civil proceedings in light of those findings?
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Having gone through the entire report my guess would be yes - 11 dead in an avoidable crash.
Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:00 pm
by John Swallow
Eric:
Do you know if the facts established by the AAIB can be used in a civil suit, or would the litigants have to start from scratch?
J
Re: Shoreham Airshow Hunter crash report released
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:50 pm
by Eric Janson
[quote author=John Swallow link=topic=5755.msg15114#msg15114 date=1488726013]
Eric:
Do you know if the facts established by the AAIB can be used in a civil suit, or would the litigants have to start from scratch?
J
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John
I'm not a lawyer or any kind of legal expert - but after reading through the report there seem to be some things that can be used in a civil suit at the very minimum.