Ethics

[Slick Goodlin]

If you get reduced at your job to something you’re grossly overqualified for, is it ethical to scale back the effort you put in commensurate with pay? I’m not threatening dereliction of duties and I’m certainly not letting anyone get hurt, but I also don’t want to really go out of my way for anything. Work to rule, I guess.

[Colonel]

I dunno man. Provide market effort for your compensation?

[Scudrunner]

tough call, I sure could build a hypothetical when I would say ya fuck it just phone it in.

Going from DFO to line pilot, kick back and fly the plane only.

[Liquid_Charlie]

While this is unusual times aviation declines have happened in the past. I can remember being in Herndon and my initial ALPA 101 and discovering that several properties were trying to get back to pre- 90's wage concessions back 10 years down the line. Taking roll backs is an ugly business but unions go for it because they want to keep their membership up.
The ethics change from person to person and not many pilots, we are a bunch of whores , never like doing anything for nothing.

If they keep a good draft pay clause you might be able to recoup some and be motivated to give up the GDO but the fact remains that this covid thing gave the industry a vertical drop to the trough that has never happened in the past.

WS is consolidating and dumping all it's low yield routes and while Toronto is a key not many routes to other destinations in Canada east of Winnipeg. I can see them going right back to the markets that built them in the first place. The one thing about WS they will shit can any poor route no matter what they had promised the victim community.

I the days after deregulation I could never understand the level one carriers getting into the commuter biz. Air Canada pissed millions initially, one example buying out Autins/Air Ontario for around 75 million for a few beat up Convairs and 748's and mostly low yield routes. No wonder these carriers have been cash strapped.
The fee for departure is another gun to the head thing for the level one guys. Basically chartering and hoping to generate revenues from seats to make money. I could never understand why they just didn't code share and set the accepted standard for the subcontractors.

I also think the cost of tickets is all over the map in Canada. There is no logic and as I said before ticket sales are so bogus when the whole ticket structure is based around this. If I by a ticket several months ahead I should get the best price not the last minute dude.

[Slick Goodlin]

Going from DFO to line pilot, kick back and fly the plane only.

CP to part time capt/trainer a year ago (my choice) and now bumped down to FO. I don’t plan to think too hard from the right seat.

[Colonel]

Oh wow. FO's always think they know more than the guy on the left, but this time it's actually the case.

You can't just mail it in. When the kid in the left seat does something really dumb, you can't just sit there.

He might kill you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colgan_Ai ... 3407#Crash

the aircraft's stick shaker activated, warning of an impending stall as the speed continued to slow to 131 knots.

The captain responded by abruptly pulling back on the control column, followed by increasing thrust to 75% power,
instead of lowering the nose and applying full power, which was the proper stall recovery technique.

That improper action pitched the nose up even further, increasing both the g-load and the stall speed.

The stick pusher activated,but the captain overrode the stick pusher and continued pulling back on the control column.

In its final moments, the aircraft pitched up 31 degrees, then pitched down 25 degrees,
then rolled left 46 degrees and snapped back to the right at 105 degrees.

Occupants aboard experienced g-forces estimated at nearly 2 Gs.

You wanna sit there while some kid in the left seat does that? If you're flying what I think
you're flying, it's a lot less forgiving than some cow of a -8

[Slick Goodlin]

Oh wow. FO's always think they know more than the guy on the left, but this time it's actually the case.

Aw shucks Colonel, you’re too kind.

Nobody’s getting killed on my watch but there are plenty of opportunities to make the operation run smoother. Experience helps find those opportunities but I doubt I’ll be motivated to look.

[John Swallow]

I just realized that I led a sheltered life...

[Colonel]

One is the best number, John. I can prove it.

One seat, underneath you.
One canopy, above you.
One throttle, in your left hand.
One stick, in your right hand.
One engine, in the fuselage.

I could go on, but you get the idea :^)

Slick: If you can continue to fly - and get paid for it - in the lean times,
you're not actually doing too badly.

[John Swallow]

One seat, underneath you.
One canopy, above you.
One throttle, in your left hand.
One stick, in your right hand.
One engine, in the fuselage.


I concur. Entering ninth decade and still thrashing around in a Van's RV is pretty neat. I'd like to have a Pitts or have access to one, but beggars can't be choosers; the -7A satisfies most needs... (;>0)