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Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:33 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
Why are there so many people on these forums who get all clusterfucked when someone posts about the industry turning out new pilots that are not trained in the very basics of airplane handling skills.

Has society finally been dumbed down to the point where mediocrity is the accepted norm?

And all that is required or expected from so called pilots is to get it into the air and back on the ground without getting injured or killed?

Re: Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:48 pm
by Colonel
You should see the PPLs here hammering
the nosewheels into the runway like they
hate the fucking thing with a passion.

I guess it is their right to try to pop the
rivets off the nosegear, and wrinkle the
firewall, and you'd better not get in the
way of them expressing their artistic
interpretive dance in that manner.
mediocrity is the accepted norm?
You betcha:

http://www.avweb.com/news/pilotlounge/T ... 691-1.html
Ben's (fatal) accident involved a stall and incipient spin from which he did not recover ...

an accident that occurred two days prior to Ben's, in which a pilot with over 20,000 hours apparently stalled and then crashed ...

the guy in the Bonanza who cartwheeled across the threshold of Runway 27 about noon on Sunday got out with only a lot of blood on his face, because I'd like to punch him. Mr. Bonanza pilot, all who were holding short for takeoff on 27 watched you fly your downwind at some strangely slow speed despite there being absolutely no other arrival traffic around you. We watched you start a descending turn toward final, and never add power or change anything, even as you overshot the runway centerline. Then you stalled the airplane, and did nothing to recover until your wing hit the ground and it absorbed the force of the impact. Your inability to fly your airplane, when no one was around you, shut down departures for the approximately 100 airplanes waiting to use that runway. You — yes you — may have some excuse for what you did. I don't know who you are, but you have a lot of people who don't much care for you right now ...
Lots of people are quite proud of their incompetence.

More "learning experiences" for them.

Just don't hurt their feelings, ok?

Re: Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:44 pm
by duCapo
Lots of people are quite proud of their incompetence.

More "learning experiences" for them.

Just don't hurt their feelings, ok?
So true. It would be funny, but too many so called pilots kill themselves and others through their own incompetence.

Re: Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:17 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
What's that bit about being policed by peers we're so happy with here?
It is not my intention to police anyone here, I am only asking a simple question.

Why are there so many people with pilots licenses who do not understand the basics of airplane handling skills?

Re: Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:02 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
I don't think flying the airplane to the standard you speak of is the goal of flight training any more.
The standard I am speaking of is the most basic of airplane handling skills.

It is Exercise number five in the Flight Training Manual.

I have taught flying for over fifty years in many countries including Canada.

Over and over it was my experience that the poorest quality of flight training was given by Canadian flight instructors.

So please explain to me how anyone can hold a flight instructors license and are incapable of teaching exercise number five?

Re: Why?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:19 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth

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I am unsure, I am here to learn and occasionally chime in. Transport Canada??
You are a fast learner.

There can be no other possible place to look for this lack of quality in flight instruction than to look at T.C. the people who issue the licenses and are supposed to regulate the industry.

Re: Why?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:45 am
by ScudRunner-d95
One of my favorite movies is Idiocracy staring Luke Wilson http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/