Av Can Cpn Little pistons stall recovery

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Made me giggle..

[Colonel]

I liked his use of the aileron to try to pick up a dropping wing.

That's always a good idea.  Future TC Inspector there.

Maybe he should have pulled back as hard as he could when
he stalled, like the guys flying Colgan 3407 and AF 447?

Nobody gives a fuck if they live or die, but if you

[size=18pt][b]LET GO OF THE STICK[/b][/size]

and oppose the yaw with your feet, you will do a lot better.

I'm sure Arlo Speer hate his guts, but this guy can fly
a 172 [i]much[/i] better.  Note where his eyes are - he is
looking outside:

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[Slick Goodlin]

What’s the context of the original video?  It could just as easily be that the 172 is so forgiving that you can screw a lot of stuff up and still get away with it.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Do you mean Big Pistons Forever the guy that recovers from becoming accidentally inverted by performing a split S to recover?


I believe he is at TC now, do you think we will see a change in the flight training manual that recommends that procedure to recover from inverted flight?

[DeflectionShot]

[quote]I liked his use of the aileron to try to pick up a dropping wing.

That's always a good idea.  Future TC Inspector there.

Maybe he should have pulled back as hard as he could when
he stalled, like the guys flying Colgan 3407 and AF 447?

Nobody gives a fuck if they live or die, but if you

LET GO OF THE STICK

and oppose the yaw with your feet, you will do a lot better.

I'm sure Arlo Speer hate his guts, but this guy can fly
a 172 much better.  Note where his eyes are - he is
looking outside:[/quote]

Would the C172 in that video need to be strengthened to do those maneuvers?

[Colonel]

Not required.  172 in utility category is good for +4.4G
which is plenty for loops, rolls, hheads, 1/2 cuban-8's, etc.

I might suggest an air-oil separator to avoid barfing
oil on the bottom of the left horizontal stab during zero G.

RV guys use a "half raven".

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Pro-tip:  Keep it light.  Strip everything out of the aircraft -
interior, seats, avionics - and it will do better acro.

Fixed pitch prop to save weight with a little four banger -
change it so that you see 3300 RPM on the downlines.

[cgzro]

Very common. I've many times had the stick go full over to lift a wing when doing stalls in little WWII trainers. Its just ingrained and even briefing is not enough to prevent it.



I would desperately love to see falling leaf as a required PPL and recurrent exercise, that and perhaps spin entry and exit without rudder. I.e. adverse yaw into the spin and adverse yaw out of it.

[Colonel]

99% of pilots, when the wing drops, will try to pick it up with aileron,
even if you tell them not to do that.

Same thing when the nose drops - they try to pick it up with full aft stick,
even if you tell them not to do that.

Or, you roll them upside down at 500 feet on final, they pull back as hard
as they can because they want the nose to go up.  Split-S Death.

The above three fatal errors are just what four bars do.

If you [i]dare[/i] mention that these are spectacularly bad habits, they sulk
and call you a [b]BAD PERSON[/b] because you hurt their delicate feelings.

Once I realized that people would rather die than have their feelings hurt
and acquire knowledge and skills that would keep them alive, I learned a lot
about 21st century pilots.  You know, buttercups.

EDIT -- flipping through a glossy flying magazine yesterday.  Generally a
complete waste of time.  Ran across an article written by someone proudly
bragging about their "fifteen years in aviation".

Well, be still my beating fucking heart.  You started flying in 2003?  Golly!

I honestly couldn't give a shit what anyone says if they don't have at least
a third, preferably half a century of [i]continuous[/i] experience.