Yeah, the Pitts is on another planet compared to
most taildraggers. You tend to get crapped on
from a great height for mentioning that, because
it's displays an egregious lack of egalitarianism
which is not compatible with the level of political
correctness required by the CBC (see TK whining
on parallel thread).
Still, the older Maules are much nastier on dry
pavement - the most difficult surface to operate
a taildragger from - than say a Citabria. Or
Decathlon, or champ, or cub, or t-craft - all of
which are wonderfully docile.
What the S1S has going for it is light weight,
so your touchdown speed is MUCH slower than
the heavy two-seaters with the big engines
and heavy constant-speed props.
What I found freaky about the S1S is it's
tendency to rapidly oscillate in pitch after
touchdown - a porpoising. It did not affect
control, but I will wager it could upset a pilot
enough for him to make a serious mistake.
Full aft stick did not make any difference,
you just had to wait it out.
Nice thing about the S1S was it's light
weight and fixed pitch prop. Wind it up
to 3300 RPM on the downlines and the
only thing that would howl louder than
the Sensenich was the neighbors.
But nothing snaps better than an S1S.
Gene Soucy used to snap his on final
to lose airspeed. Another [b]BAD PERSON[/b].
MRC
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Another harmless oscillation: 450hp Stearman with
extra fuel tanks in the top wings. Tends to "duck walk"
after wheel-landing touchdown, waddling back and
forth. Again, not a control issue but weird.
Another annoying oscillation: learning to taxi with
a single hand brake lever, where the pressure is
directed to the brakes via the rudder pedal position.
It's funny that oscillations are never, ever mentioned
in CPL or ATPL training. No one has ever chased a
LOC or GS needle or ASI.
extra fuel tanks in the top wings. Tends to "duck walk"
after wheel-landing touchdown, waddling back and
forth. Again, not a control issue but weird.
Another annoying oscillation: learning to taxi with
a single hand brake lever, where the pressure is
directed to the brakes via the rudder pedal position.
It's funny that oscillations are never, ever mentioned
in CPL or ATPL training. No one has ever chased a
LOC or GS needle or ASI.
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6587.msg17772#msg17772 date=1499185791]
What I found freaky about the S1S is it's
tendency to rapidly oscillate in pitch after
touchdown - a porpoising. It did not affect
control, but I will wager it could upset a pilot
enough for him to make a serious mistake.
Full aft stick did not make any difference,
you just had to wait it out.
[/quote]
How often did you get that? Under what conditions? Pavement? Grass?
Havent experienced that porpoise yet, curious when it happened to you.
What I found freaky about the S1S is it's
tendency to rapidly oscillate in pitch after
touchdown - a porpoising. It did not affect
control, but I will wager it could upset a pilot
enough for him to make a serious mistake.
Full aft stick did not make any difference,
you just had to wait it out.
[/quote]
How often did you get that? Under what conditions? Pavement? Grass?
Havent experienced that porpoise yet, curious when it happened to you.
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Dry pavement. Remember, there are different
lengths of S1 fuselages. I might have been
flying a short fuselage that someone had grafted
four-aileron round wings onto (common mod).
Also, tire pressure and sidewall stiffness will
play a part, as well how long and springy the
tailwheel extender is.
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PTzuWA45QyE/S ... ge+016.JPG[/img]
The pitch oscillation wasn't a control issue,
it was merely unexpected.
Far more important to keep that motherfucking
tailwheel locked. Just like the Beech 18. Can't
imagine landing either with it swivelling, but I
know a guy that does with his DH Hornet Moth.
He's an incredible stick. Used to fly for AC, the
union hated him because he would fly anything.
Those guys are all long-gone, unfortunately.
lengths of S1 fuselages. I might have been
flying a short fuselage that someone had grafted
four-aileron round wings onto (common mod).
Also, tire pressure and sidewall stiffness will
play a part, as well how long and springy the
tailwheel extender is.
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PTzuWA45QyE/S ... ge+016.JPG[/img]
The pitch oscillation wasn't a control issue,
it was merely unexpected.
Far more important to keep that motherfucking
tailwheel locked. Just like the Beech 18. Can't
imagine landing either with it swivelling, but I
know a guy that does with his DH Hornet Moth.
He's an incredible stick. Used to fly for AC, the
union hated him because he would fly anything.
Those guys are all long-gone, unfortunately.
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[quote author=Shiny link=topic=6587.msg17780#msg17780 date=1499195775]
[quote author=Strega link=topic=6587.msg17765#msg17765 date=1499179103]
Shiny,
Was it you that crashed the maul doing a "tailwheel checkout"?
[/quote]
Already answered that, but yes I had an accident involving a Maule. Not sure if its the one you're referring to, since I've become aware of a few accidents involving that airplane and other pilots giving instruction on it. The accident in question happened at CFX2.
In short, I made a mistake in judgement. I let the student have too much rope and I couldn't get it back. While one might have called it a "check out" it was more like ab initio. I could describe it in detail, but that wouldn't change the verdict of the audience here would change their view, so I'll save myself the typing, and I suspect Strega is already familiar.
[/quote]
"one" didnt call it a check out, thats what it was... or is the cadors wrong? Or was this one of the other accidents involving that airplane and other pilots giving instruction on it?
[quote author=Strega link=topic=6587.msg17765#msg17765 date=1499179103]
Shiny,
Was it you that crashed the maul doing a "tailwheel checkout"?
[/quote]
Already answered that, but yes I had an accident involving a Maule. Not sure if its the one you're referring to, since I've become aware of a few accidents involving that airplane and other pilots giving instruction on it. The accident in question happened at CFX2.
In short, I made a mistake in judgement. I let the student have too much rope and I couldn't get it back. While one might have called it a "check out" it was more like ab initio. I could describe it in detail, but that wouldn't change the verdict of the audience here would change their view, so I'll save myself the typing, and I suspect Strega is already familiar.
[/quote]
"one" didnt call it a check out, thats what it was... or is the cadors wrong? Or was this one of the other accidents involving that airplane and other pilots giving instruction on it?
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With all due respect to the TSB, there is no
such thing as a "tailwheel endorsement", at
least in the sovereign nation of Canada, which
I [i]think[/i] the TSB knows that both it and AB
are in.
Tailwheel training is difficult. Remember that
the hottest TC Inspector in Ontario cannot even
land a Luscombe under normal conditions. The
idea of him instructing on it would be ludicrous
and quite possibly fatal.
Just as we cannot reasonably expect students
to be more knowledgeable and skilled than their
instructors, we cannot expect instructors to be
more knowledgeable and skilled than the people
who test and certify them.
Aviation is fucked in Canada, basically.
such thing as a "tailwheel endorsement", at
least in the sovereign nation of Canada, which
I [i]think[/i] the TSB knows that both it and AB
are in.
Tailwheel training is difficult. Remember that
the hottest TC Inspector in Ontario cannot even
land a Luscombe under normal conditions. The
idea of him instructing on it would be ludicrous
and quite possibly fatal.
Just as we cannot reasonably expect students
to be more knowledgeable and skilled than their
instructors, we cannot expect instructors to be
more knowledgeable and skilled than the people
who test and certify them.
Aviation is fucked in Canada, basically.