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Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:56 pm
by David MacRay
In addition to me not being of good englishing. The picture was not opening before when clicked upon. And if I tried to stretch it too much blur happened.

This time it opened. I was able to stretch it and read.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:54 am
by Nark1
We do heavy checks in Costa Rica and Puerto Rico.  Plus half of our work-force's first language is Spanish.


It would benefit me greatly to habla.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:25 am
by Colonel
Despite what the Ottawa Elites think, Spanish is
a far more useful language to learn than French.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:49 am
by vanNostrum
[quote author=Nark link=topic=7958.msg22144#msg22144 date=1519358057]
It would benefit me greatly to habla.
[/quote]

Si, el beneficio mas  important es poder hablar con las hermosas senioritas!

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:05 am
by David MacRay
Globally Mandrin or something like Arabic or Punjabi is probably even better than Espanial.

I am noticing that there are an awful lot of accents though. So once I get good pronunciation of a few words in Mandrin according to one person, the next person has difficulty understanding some of them.

Wa hen how.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:28 am
by Eric Janson
[quote author=Nark link=topic=7958.msg22111#msg22111 date=1519148558]
Dave, 

The Airbus has automatic "pilot" heat.  (We call them Air Data Computer, or SMART probe's) If I recall the Embraer 170/190 also has automatic probe heat (auto anti-ice too). 

Further, from the jumpseat view, the 737 and CRJ's don't have probe heat switches either... at least I can't remember the folks moving a switch when entering icing. 


The A320/321's still need the human touch.  I'd be interested to chat with 787/A350 dudes to see if they intervene all that much.
[/quote]

737's have manual switches for the probe and window heat - located top RHS of the overhead panel.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:50 pm
by Kartoon
[quote author=Slick Goodlin link=topic=7958.msg22112#msg22112 date=1519149389]
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=7958.msg22087#msg22087 date=1518977699]
[b]Do you have lots of altitude?[/b]  Seriously consider letting go of the flight controls.
[/quote]
In China they went a step further:
[img width=500 height=339]https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/1/61933_1229429611.jpg[/img]
[img]http://[color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][font=arial][size=small]https://goo.gl/images/z6WNBu[/size][/font][/color][/img]
That white line in the CJ-6 is supposedly there as a reference to line the stick up on when you find yourself in an unusual attitude.
[/quote]


That must be to compensate for this « user friendly «  Made in China attitude indicator.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:54 pm
by Colonel
I gave some aerobatic flight instruction in a CJ-6 once,
the mixture was [i]backwards[/i] to what you might expect.

Full forward was cut-off, all the way back for max fuel.

IIRC some French and British trainers early in WWII also
featured such unique configurations for engine controls.

It would be amusing to have an aircraft with the
ailerons and elevators rigged backwards, I suppose,
but I have no desire to fly them.

Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:42 am
by cgzro
Yes, many British WWII trainers had the mixture rich aft as opposed to rich forward. They also often had the throttle and mixture linked so that you can only lean (push forward) at higher throttle settings. I'm told this was to remind you to richen the mixture during a descent, i.e. you pull the power back to descend and the mixture which is linked now also pulls back with the throttle. The mixture lever often has an 'A' on it for altitude. I.e  higher altitude means more forward.


British logic ;)


I fly both types semi regularly and it requires some mental gymnastics to always keep the damn mixture full aft in some planes and not others. Fortunately those trainers climb like rocks and we never get high enough to need to lean most of the time anyway.




Re: SAF703 AN-148 Black Box Data Tells of Chaos Before Plane Crash Near Moscow

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:24 pm
by ScudRunner-d95
MY job on the 727 as an FO was
Pitot Heat
Window Heat
When do we eat?