Scudrunners

[quote author=Liquid Charlie link=topic=7023.msg18988#msg18988 date=1504961722]
I guess if you want to be a big ballsy type of guy and pound on your chest and say "I kiss no one's ass" all the more power to you but like most things there likely a far better approach to accomplish the same results and not piss everyone off and have people think you are a total idiot. I never liked trying to push a chain is just never seems to work. The trick is to able to get you point across and have people respect your decision. Oh ya -- I think it's called psychology. It's doesn't matter if it's right or wrong if you can't correct it. I have found approaching people like a freight train seldom has a positive outcome. People will do the opposite even if it's wrong and all you have done is burned your bridges and not corrected the problem. There is always at least 2 sides to an issue and more often than naught there are many factors. Your view of the problem might not necessarily be the total picture. I see it every day, pilots trying to out guess company and corporate decisions. They never have the "full" and complete picture. My answer to them is "just do your job"
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I work with a diplomatic approach most of the time.


This is just public ranting, as I find it unbelievably stupid that AC employees, so called professional pilots, will blindly defend the company, and distort the story -- "hard landing YHZ) or " simple missed approach, SFO", just because they work there.  What is this, your favourite sports team? Can do no wrong?  Grow up, I say. Act like a professional, even if its unpopular. 


But such people are totally gutless. No courage, no integrity. People pleasers.  And that is a good way to end up dead, or broke.


I work very nice with people, and that generally works out, but it's on my own terms.


I'm in a position, I don't have to negotiate, nor say yes if I don't wish to. And if I don't respect someone, don't trust them, the answer is no. 

I know where you are coming from but pilots and employees are not allowed to comment publicly on any events and if they do they are in violation of company policy as outlined in Emergency Response manuals. I am not familiar what was said or happened but having, in the past been "stranded" on a ramp(as the skipper) the flight crew is going through everything the passengers are. You are at whoever's mercy calling the shots. SOCC centre, airport manager or joe fuel truck driver. As a crew you hands are pretty much tied and the only option would be to evacuate on the ramp. Might be a good time for the F/A to burn the crew meal but then you get sued by the guy whole broke his ankle going down the slide. Not many A/C portable units anymore. They are incorporated into the bridges and not enough of those to go around and security is an issue as well. There are so many variables for an isolated event alone with no wiggle room for companies because holiday charters are done with such a low profit margin any hickup will create an operating loss. Ya I know, but these are facts of life. The passengers in question got a raw deal but there is very little financial incentive for repeat customers. No wonder the companies care less about their customers. By next season all will be forgotten and cheap holidays trump service any day.