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Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:29 pm
by ScudRunner-d95
You can get some pretty nice little EFIS back up gauges with independent battery packs, they will let you live for at least another 30 mins. Of course that all depends on if you can hand fly on just a basic attitude indicator.

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:01 pm
by Colonel
[quote]Just don't be dependent on the technology never failing[/quote]

Easy for you to say, tough to do in real life.

The guy flying AF447 had 3000TT and a list of
credentials and training longer than your arm,
and he couldn't handle an airspeed failure.

Today's pilots are road kill without their toys,
just trying to fly straight and level.

You put them in an unusual pitch or bank
attitude [u]in perfect VMC[/u] [i]with everything working[/i],
they are dead for sure.

I've been shit on for many, many years for
this, but I still don't understand what the big
deal is, about aerobatics in cloud.  I guess I
just don't fly as well as a big belly.

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:16 pm
by cgzro
I flew an Extra 330L a while back and it has a couple of nice large graphics displays. Was overkill for aerobatics which is kind of the point of the Extra. One thing that was very annoying was the tiny little engine pressure/temperature sliders which are really the only thing you want to be looking at besides airspeed and altitude. Also all the alarms when you stall or get close to stalling it .. which is also kind of the point of the plane. Really nice plane though.. super easy to fly.


https://www.youtube.com/embed/1z-bRdn3rOw

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:20 pm
by Colonel
Double (540 degree) hammerhead?  Ought to
be easy with those huge tailfeathers.

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:21 pm
by Colonel
PS  Before someone shits on me for not being
a fan of reading a huge "how to fly" book in flight:


[img width=500 height=460][/img]

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:49 pm
by Eric Janson
Nice picture of the 737 checklist found on the yoke.

We always had it covered by SID/STAR/Approach plates.

Don't know of any Airlines that flew solely with this as their checklist - we had a laminated checklist in a slot in the center of the glareshield.

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:35 pm
by John Swallow
I hope that checklist is not on a production aircraft...

Decent...?

(;>0)

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:32 am
by Colonel
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Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:56 am
by Slick Goodlin
[quote author=John Swallow link=topic=5307.msg13696#msg13696 date=1483832127]
I hope that checklist is not on a production aircraft...

Decent...?

(;>0)
[/quote]
I assume that's the checklist required to perform a decent approach.


I like taking people flying in this sort of thing:
[img width=500 height=375]http://www.russellw.com/photoalbum/crev ... ockpit.jpg[/img]

Re: Info overload???

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:58 am
by Colonel
Nice!  All I want in the panel:

Oil Pressure
Oil Temperature
Tachometer
Airspeed
Altimeter (sensitive is nice, mostly I zero it)

For fuel quantity, either a cork wire in the top
of the fuselage tank (if there is one) or clear
vertical tubes connecting the top and the bottom
of the tanks at the wing root.  But generally
time is your best measurement of fuel.

It's nice to have a ball if you're giving training in it.

If it's got an electrical system, an ammeter and a
voltmeter (generally curiously absent from most
aircraft despite the low cost and usefulness) are
nice.

However, the best primary trainer doesn't have an
electrical system - just a portable intercom with
a 9V battery, and a couple of headsets with boom
mikes.

Learn to hand prop - teaches you to prime - and
learn to look outside, NORDO.

Pilots today would be a lot better off, to solo on
a tube & fabric taildragger with no electrical system.

[img width=500 height=245][/img]

It would teach them to look outside, and to use
their feet.

PS  The older I get, the more I appreciate warning
lights.  If the voltage drops too low, or the vacuum
drops, I want a bright fucking red light to come on.