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Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:40 pm
by Slick Goodlin
A Canadian majority government is just a four year elected dictatorship. I’m not apathetic towards the policies involved but the folks who believe their favourite party leader is their best friend and saviour of the country are in for disappointment.

Politics should be a boring procedural slog, leave it to the cult leaders to pander and promise the world.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:20 pm
by Colonel
I’ll try to keep this simple.

Trudeau Sr bankrupted your country in the 1970’s with reckless spending that took decades to partially recover from.

Canadians liked that so much, they elected Trudeau Jr repeatedly to again spend recklessly and drive everyone into the poorhouse. Again.

https://www.debtclock.ca

If you liked the last 9 years, vote for Fidel’s offspring again. If not, vote for someone else.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:08 pm
by Big Pistons Forever
Sure looks like the senior pilots threw the junior ones under the bus. It is not a good look when just the pay bump for the top guys is more than the entire salary for a new hire.

Be interesting to see if it gets voted down. Every AC pilot I know thinks the CA is dog poop.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:38 pm
by Slick Goodlin
Big Pistons Forever wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:08 pm Sure looks like the senior pilots threw the junior ones under the bus.
How? All anyone outside the negotiations team has done so far is answer survey questions for which I’d love to see a scatter plot of the results. I bet they’re wild. The membership hasn’t done anything to anyone yet, that will be up to a vote next month.

For the record I stand to get more of a raise than a first year pilot will make and I’m very, very junior. I wonder how much I’d have to give back to get the new hires and people not on property what they want.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:59 am
by Colonel
I can’t think of anything more Canadian than complaining about a large, long-overdue pay raise.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:30 am
by Slick Goodlin
Colonel wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:59 am I can’t think of anything more Canadian than complaining about a large, long-overdue pay raise.
Right? I haven’t read the full language but the summary sure seems like wins all around* and on a short-ish contract. I’m on team ‘take it and spend the next 2 1/2 years organizing and figuring out what next’ but I apparently can’t say that out loud at work.

*someone said profit sharing is potentially changing in a negative way but screw it, pay me today and every day instead of a heavily taxed little treat in the spring.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:51 pm
by Colonel
Congratulations on the pay raise!

Just think of all the extra income tax you will pay. I’m not sure I could signal that much virtue. :-)

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:16 am
by Slick Goodlin
Colonel wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:51 pm Just think of all the extra income tax you will pay.
Don’t think ALPA can help much there. Different vote, different time.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:59 pm
by Slick Goodlin
Looks like it passed today. There was still plenty of room for improvement but I’ll call it a soft win.

Re: News on Air Canada’s ALPA agreement

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:18 pm
by Colonel
Funny. CBC says you guys are now paid more than here. Go team!

I expect we will see a mass exodus of Canadian ex-pats from United, Delta and American moving back up north?