Scudrunners

Well HiFlyChick last time I checked we still have the right to express our thoughts on these subjects.

If you are cool with people not being taught the basics of airplane handling skills that is your privilege.

Conversely the Colonel and I are free to express our opinion.

By the way we will not give these people our airplanes to be mishandled, but you are free to.

HFC:  sorry you got a callus on your finger tip
from pushing buttons.  Hope it's better soon.

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Gotta get me some of them purty white shirts
and gold bars on Ebay!  Then I can really start
to fly those big circuits!

I'm sorry Colonel but I gotta disagree with you here.. I'd rather someone put down 50% flaps and slow the airplane down and turn a coordinated turn rather than doing a hammerhead when they are shitting their pants because they can only see rising terrain ahead of them...

You know, going along with that saying that goes superior pilots using their superior judgement instead of their superior skills!

I'm sorry Colonel but I gotta disagree with you here.. I'd rather someone put down 50% flaps and slow the airplane down and turn a coordinated turn rather than doing a hammerhead when they are shitting their pants because they can only see rising terrain ahead of them...

I expect them not to get into that position in the first place.

Colonel wrote: But I will mention that a 172 does a marvellous
hammerhead, even if it barfs oil out on the underneath
of the left horizontal stab.

Remember:  the airplane is not the limiting
factor.  YOU are the limiting factor, because
you are incapable of flying the aircraft to the
limits

I get your basic point, but it seems like an airplane that starts spewing out its precious operating fluids has had its limits exceeded.

rather than doing a hammerhead

You would prefer a 1/2 cuban-eight, then?

Any aircraft in the normal category is capable
of it.  In the 1950's (not sure I'm allowed to
mention history of aviation here) SAC used to
have huge nuclear bombers do 1/2 cuban-8's
for egress.  Google it.

an airplane that starts spewing out its precious operating fluids has had its limits exceeded

Well, I guess no one can do acro in a Grob
115C any more, because it pukes oil out all
the time.  Lycoming says you only need 2
quarts of oil - I guess that would be the
limit?

Hell, any time you fill any wet sump piston
engine over it's windage point, it pukes oil
out all over the belly.  People don't call the
182 the "skygreaser" for nothing.

Not sure that's exceeding any limits - in fact,
that's exactly what happens when you simply
fill the oil to the full level.

In the 421B, if I switch from the mains
to the auxes too soon, the return lines
can easily overfill the mains and they
start to spray 100LL out the vents.

When my father did airshows in the T-33
and tumbled it, the whiffle valves in the
nearly empty tips would vent.  Very pretty.

I'm not sure a CADORs really needs
to be filed for any of these.