Sad day at MRC

[Strega]

Technam crashed nw of YBW.....  no survivors...


Aviation kills kids.. 

[Colonel]

You sure he's wrong about them being kids, Shiny?

I suspect I have may have cans of butyrate in my
hangar older than either of these instructors.

What I don't understand ...

They are flying a twin-engine aircraft (safer, right?)
with production and type certificates issued by none
other than TC.  This is not easy.  In fact, it's a giant
pain in the ass.  TC, for example, told me that I could
not import a new certified-in-the-USA Pitts S-2C (there
were none in Canada at the time) even though there
were S-2B's on the registry with the very same type
and production certificates, unless I paid for a bunch
of big bellies to travel to Afton, Wyoming to inspect
the Aviat factory.

Their aircraft was maintained by an AME licenced by TC
working for an AMO which TC issued and repeatedly PVI'd.

TC has issued an OC to the FTU which maintains
these aircraft by a PRM vigorously interrogated by TC
with a voluminous and approved MCM  and is flown
IAW a comprehensive and approved FTU Operations
Control Manual.

The two instructors no doubt had valid CPL's issued
by TC, and instructor ratings issues by TC, and had
valid Category One medicals issued by TC, overseen
by a CFI approved by TC.

This flight was no doubt approved and signed out
in the daily flight sheet, with appropriate signatures
and initials.

With all of this fucking paper paper paper paper paper
layered hundreds of feet deep on this operation, what
I don't understand is how anything could [i]possibly [/i]go
wrong.

There is so much TC involvement and oversight in
every aspect of this aircraft and it's operation, it's simply
[i]not possible[/i] that any detail was overlooked.

This accident didn't happen, according to the regulator
narrative.  If it did, it would be an indictment of all
of this stupid fucking paperwork.

Obviously more paper is required.  Aviation is not
regulated sufficiently in Canada, the big bellies will
solemnly tell us.

And who gives a shit about the laws of physics?

Years ago, on AvCan, a four-bar stated that it was
ok to crash as long as your paperwork was in order.

I apologize for being culturally and generationally
distanced from that insane mentality, where people
want "He Had Good Paper" on their white-shirt, gold-bar
tombstones.

Try paying a little bit more attention to Sir Isaac Newton,
is what I would humbly suggest.  You have more to
learn from him, than some big belly, even though he
was certainly a [b]BAD PERSON[/b].

Oh yeah, Happy Valentine's Day.

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[Strega]

I dont see how this could have happened...  maybe im missing something..


The news reported there was another aircraft that witnessed the crash...  hopefully they can shed some light...  my gut is telling me this is 100% pilot error...

[Colonel]

[quote]my gut is telling me this is 100% pilot error[/quote]

Could be.  As I keep saying:

[i]There will be no new causes of aircraft accidents this year[/i].

This aircraft was not shot down by a Klingon warship hidden by
a Romulan cloaking device.  That would have been unavoidable,
and frankly somewhat glorious.

This aircraft was brought down by something simple, that's
been killing pilots for over 100 years now.  It's always the
way it turns out.

Remember Harry Ford's PT-22 was brought down by a kid
that didn't put a drop of locktite on his carburetor jets?

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What puzzles me is:

1) people who have no interest in avoiding accidents

2) people who think that paper, not knowledge and skill
is what prevents accidents

I am not equipped to deal with people in either group,
and I am certain that they strongly dislike me.

[Strega]

Shiny,,,


Its not powered by "Ski-doo" engines...    Id rather fly behind a new rotax 912, than a clapped out lycoming...  just me though..


I dont have the poh handy,, but it would appear (as published in flying mag) the SE service ceiling is 7500 feet.  I doubt it was at gross weight....

[Strega]

Looks like no issues to maintain 5000 feet...  doesnt seem likely they "flew to the scene"

[David MacRay]

5000 feet above ground level? The springbank airport is almost 4000 above sea level. 3937. 8000'asl is not very far from base, here.

Regardless, it is definately a terrible thing to lose a plane and a few aviators. No matter what factors lead up to it.

Edit:
There is an optical illusion that can happen around here with the sun setting into the mountains. It somehow causes higher terrain to appear further off in the distance than it really is. I wonder if that might have happened in this case.

[Strega]

Dave,


Im not saying the SE performance of that thing is stellar..  I just dont think it had any real factor.  Where they were, 5000' ASL will not give you dirt poisoning..