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Colonel
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Always put the fat bastard up front  :))

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DeflectionShot

[quote]Try to get over that.  They don't care, so why
should you?  I used to get worked up over
people dying, too, until I realized that they
didn't care - so why should you and I?[/quote]

I think the vast majority of pilots think it's never going to happen to them. Even though I only fly for fun I'm still slightly shocked by what some people do in flying machines, especially when they aren't doing it for a living. I think I read somewhere that Chuck Yeager's greatest fear was dying in a plane crash. I suspect that fear kept him alive.

This guy probably thought it would never happen to him:

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2015/09/a ... 15-in.html

I'm suspect the St. Catharine's Class 4 who took those two kids on their excellent IFR adventure didn't think it was going to happen to him either....
Rookie Pilot
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[quote author=DeflectionShot link=topic=5098.msg13077#msg13077 date=1481483358]
[quote]Try to get over that.  They don't care, so why
should you?  I used to get worked up over
people dying, too, until I realized that they
didn't care - so why should you and I?[/quote]

I think the vast majority of pilots think it's never going to happen to them. Even though I only fly for fun I'm still slightly shocked by what some people do in flying machines, especially when they aren't doing it for a living. I think I read somewhere that Chuck Yeager's greatest fear was dying in a plane crash. I suspect that fear kept him alive.

This guy probably thought it would never happen to him:

[url=http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2015/09/a ... 15-in.html]http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2015/09/a ... 15-in.html[/url]

I'm suspect the St. Catharine's Class 4 who took those two kids on their excellent IFR adventure didn't think it was going to happen to him either....
[/quote]


I'm surprised the flying clubs procedures aren't under examination.  Those conditions especially for a basic single -- night convective IMC - were way over the head of a 400TT pilot, instructor or not.  I don't like night IMC, add convective, forget it in a non turbine AC and high experience crew.


As for this linked accident here, I learned long ago don't blindly trust ATC (not that it was their fault) -- to bail you out. I've had awesome ATC help, and ATC that wanted to vector me right into convective in my SE plane.


[font=Verdana]I politely told them to get stuffed with that idea. [/font]


I've also landed at KGSO at night, for the first time too, and insisted on doing the ILS in VMC,  even when questioned why. No chance of hitting terrain when doing it that way at a new airport with obstacles around.


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Colonel
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[quote]I'm surprised the flying clubs procedures aren't under examination[/quote]

ummmmmm ... what CAR is contravened by crashing?

I'm not sure you understand.  As long as you have
paper, TC really doesn't give a shit if you live or die.
That's not their job.

Many years ago, the light bulb went on for me when
I heard a four-bar state that as long as your paper
was in order, it was ok to crash.
Colonel
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Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:31 am

[quote]I think the vast majority of pilots think it's never going to happen to them[/quote]

That's because they're idiots.

[url=http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviat ... 0531X12318]http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviat ... 0531X12318[/url]

[quote]14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, May 31, 2014 in Watkins, CO
Probable Cause Approval Date: 01/27/2015
Aircraft: CESSNA 150, registration: N6275G
Injuries: 2 Fatal.

The pilot and various passengers were taking self-photographs
with their cell phones during the night flight, using the camera’s
flash function[/quote]

I guess the light bulb went on for them, too.

I cannot understand where this complete contempt
for motorized equipment came from.  I can only
suspect the toxic combination of helicopter mommies
and video games.

Philosophically, their lack of concern for continued
living is backed up by the massive overpopulation
of the planet.  I find it hard to argue with that.
DeflectionShot

[quote]14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, May 31, 2014 in Watkins, CO
Probable Cause Approval Date: 01/27/2015
Aircraft: CESSNA 150, registration: N6275G
Injuries: 2 Fatal.

The pilot and various passengers were taking self-photographs
with their cell phones during the night flight, using the camera’s
flash function[/quote]

Guess he missed the sterile cockpit seminar....
Colonel
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Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:31 am

[quote]a majority of people lack experience with it until an older age[/quote]

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I guess when these guys fly airplanes, the NTSB
hears about it.  Contrast with this kid:

DeflectionShot

Since we're celebrating aviation idiocy this week, how about this guy? Wrecking one plane wasn't enough, he decided to take a second crack at it with a Phenom 100 and this time succeeded brilliantly by taking five people with him including a mother and two kids on the ground.

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2016/01/e ... -sage.html



Colonel
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An excessive money-to-brains ratio frequently
results in notable events.
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