One Day After Ukraine Hits World’s Largest Nuclear Power…

[Squaretail]

You don’t get it. Prop 36 passed with over 70% of the vote and your George Soros DA in LA is out along with the mayors of Oakland and SF.

Not sure what you're referring to here. Contrary to popular belief, the left doesnt worship Soros.

In absolute numbers, Californians voted for Trump third behind only Florida and Texas. Over 40% of the popular vote in California voted for Trump. You need to stop listening to your garbage legacy media. All they do is lie.

Um, except that is what they're all repoting too. Harris just recieved more of the vote share in California at about 58%. You understand that 58% is more than 40% right? But more importantly for your well being the democrats control tbe state house, senate and governorship, with a considerable majority. Hence why California is a pretty good place all things considered. You know you live in a blue state right? And for that matter a pretty blue part of that blue state. From what i know, there's a lot of left content creators that live near you.

America and California are both worth fighting for, and we will win.

I dont know they're both pretty amazing already, and you voted to change that which i find bizzarre.

I get it, you get upset when you think there is some critique of your hero figures. Unlike Soros, Musk is now set to directly influence government policy which i can only assume you thoroghly approve of. I mean what could go wrong when the richest man on the planet gets control of the regulators that might curb him in any way?

Again, when you leave your blue state haven because its unbearable there ill take you more seriously. Isnt moving away from California what everyone who prizes freedom is doing these days? Its a frequent thing i hear from the private jet circles these days.

[Colonel]

Well, you seem to have all the answers.

Enjoy your long, dark cold winter and man-child of a PM.

[Squaretail]

Well, you seem to have all the answers.

Maybe, maybe not. My prediction is that the next 4 years in the US will be not bad unless some of the crazies really get their way. California will be (like it has for a while) be a very reasonable place to live. The economy is good now, and unless its driven into a ditch, all they have to do is maintain that. Not sure how the promised tariff war that's promised will affect things.

Enjoy your long, dark cold winter and man-child of a PM.

Thanks! I'll try to get by. Enjoy California, i mean if you can bear it until January when everything will magically be fixed.

[mcrit]

Though I have to ask, why is this a sudden escalation? Months ago the Ukrainians were able to take an actual chunk of Russian territory. Firing a few missiles seems like a lesser threat (most of the missiles were intercepted too) so now the threat of WW3 is greater? The threat of global catastrophe was ratcheted up when Russian soldiers crossed the Ukrainian frontier almost 2 years ago, and Putin has been threatening nuclear war ever since.

Trump plans to appease Putin to "stop" the war. Hasn't the world seen this story before? My prediction is if a ceasefire is reached, Russia will find an excuse to try and take another chunk of Ukraine within a very short time.

The close proximity of all the targets in that area blurs the lines between strategic strikes and tactical strikes. If the Ukrainians use a western weapon to inflict what the Russians consider to be a strategic strike, that will go very badly. Combine that with the fact that Putin has stated he will consider the use of western weapons on Russian territory as an attack by the west, and the potential for direct conflict between NATO and the Russians significantly increases.

Appeasing someone implies you have the ability to withhold something from them; the west does not have the ability to withhold Ukraine from the Russians. Acknowledging reality is not appeasement.

This crisis did not get kicked off when the Russians invaded Ukraine. It started when the U.S., under the Democratic Obama administration (which included members with close economic ties to Ukraine), overthrew the pro-Russian Ukrainian government and replaced them with a pro U.S. regime, and then started to progressively move the Ukraine closer to NATO membership. This was a direct violation of the agreement between the west and the Russians during the breakup of the USSR. In short, the owners of the Democratic Party played fast and loose on the Russian border for reasons of personal gain, and as a result have created a Sino-Russian power block and brought us to the brink of WWIII

[Colonel]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... r-year-low

President-elect Trump is enjoying a bump in favorability since winning a second White House term earlier this month, while figures for outgoing President Biden sank to a four-year-low

Even leftie looney Michael Moore is asking why Biden wants to be remembered as starting WWIII

PS I know Canadians love Kamala so I’ll let the lefties explain her bizarre rant yesterday where she drunkenly slurs her words and says to never, ever give up power.

I cannot believe the overwhelming majority of Canadians wanted her to win. She is unqualified to be dog catcher in San Jose.

[Squaretail]

Appeasing someone implies you have the ability to withhold something from them; the west does not have the ability to withhold Ukraine from the Russians. Acknowledging reality is not appeasement.

I think that's debatable. Certainly the US if it withheld support to Ukraine that would force a decisive loss for the Ukraininians. If that would even bring Putin to the table. He will probably see it as an opportunity to reabsorb all of Ukraine. However, Putin, like Hitler, is running out of time, so inevitably will keep pushing for more territory, the baltic states and Poland being the most obvious next moves.

This crisis did not get kicked off when the Russians invaded Ukraine. It started when the U.S., under the Democratic Obama administration (which included members with close economic ties to Ukraine), overthrew the pro-Russian Ukrainian government and replaced them with a pro U.S. regime, and then started to progressively move the Ukraine closer to NATO membership. This was a direct violation of the agreement between the west and the Russians during the breakup of the USSR. In short, the owners of the Democratic Party played fast and loose on the Russian border for reasons of personal gain, and as a result have created a Sino-Russian power block and brought us to the brink of WWIII

The prevailing pro-Russian talking point is that Russia is backed into a corner. On the flip side however, Russia has been taking escalating agressive action against its neighbors from the moment the Russian Federation was formed. There was a small period where the west was hoping to bring Russia back into the international community, but since Putin has consolodated power, the agression has increased against any groups that arent essentially pro-Russian puppets. Nations want to join NATO because they want to be protected from Russia. I mean, Sweden and Finland also had no plans to abandon their neutrality until the war in Ukraine.

Besides that, does one really think that Putin's stated aims of "denazifying" Ukraine have any serious merit? Given the history between the Ukraine and Russia, does one really believe that Ukrainians prefer a pro-Russian government? While obviously they need to have a working relationship if a peaceful future is to be resolved, Russia has shown no intentions in that regard. Nor have they ever for that matter.

[mcrit]

I think that's debatable.

It’s not. The only way to remove the Russians from the territory they now hold is either by attrition (which has an unsustainable price in Ukrainian lives and would weaken the West to the point where we could not contain the CHICOMs) or via direct NATO intervention. Either way, we lose and the CHICOMs win

The prevailing pro-Russian talking point is that Russia is backed into a corner. ……... Nor have they ever for that matter.

Realism is not pro-Russian. The West has frequently influenced regime change in foreign nations, and would have quite happily displaced Putin in favour of their own puppet. I know it, you know it and Putin knows it. This is a simple statement of fact and not a judgement; a predatory instinct is beneficial for survival. Bringing Ukraine into the western sphere, or NATO, produces a long, and virtually un-defendable boarder between Russia and several great powers that have been traditionally hostile. Ukraine was on the route that both Napoleon and Hitler took on the way to Moscow; you’d do well to remember that, the Russians do.

The simple truth is that the Russians need to have Ukraine in their sphere of influence in order to assure the security of their nation, much like the U.S. needs both Canada and Mexico in their sphere. Putin can’t afford to loose Ukraine which is why he has made peace with one of Russia’s most bitter rivals, China.

If the west was smart, they’d bolster they hell out of NATO’s eastern defences and let Putin keep the territory he’s taken on the condition that he side with the west on dealing with the CHICOMs and the Iranians.