Dave flys a Citabria?

[David MacRay]

Ok I basically forgot about it since they never got back to me.
However, I was out booking some 172 dual since that's what I'm into and found out I'm 19 on the list.

I don't know what that means but cool.

So brace for bad wx coming up in YYC.

[Colonel]

What is this "bad wx" that you speak of?

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[David MacRay]

The bad weather did not get to the field until we were all read doing circuits. I said,  Looks like we're going to be flying in the rain soon." He asked, "You ever fly in the rain?" I said, "Yeah, it's been a while."

I snagged complement on my crosswind landing and partially blame you and some others on these forums. Discussing it really helped.

The lady at the desk even said, "I heard you did a really good crosswind landing." Of course that couldn't happen back when I was young and single.

[Colonel]

Congratulations!  We taught you everything we know - took 90 seconds  >:D

[David MacRay]

Rick a former CFI with Maui Aviators helped out by demonstration. A few years ago he moved the yoke and showed me the plane does not flip over or drag a wing, from using what seconds before I thought was too much aileron, in a strong crosswind down low. Instead it stops drifting slightly.

[Colonel]

Right rudder
Lower the nose
Step on the ball
Look outside
Fly the airplane, ignore the radio
Don't pick up a dropping wing with ailleron
Lower the nose
Don't overcontrol - freeze the controls
Don't forget to trim
Look outside
Nail that airspeed on short final
Don't land crabbed
Left arm goes straight if it doesn't feel good
Stick all the way back after tail down to plant it, hope it doesn't shimmy too much
Stick over into the crosswind
Always tip your instructor 50%

[David MacRay]

Funny you bring up "lower the nose" during the debrief he mentioned, "Another thing I was impressed with was at one point I said you were getting slow and you lowered the nose instead of going for power.." I said, "It's a 172, the poor little engine doesn't have enough power to carry us away. Maybe if I was in an F-16 I would have reached for the throttle."

Plus I didn't say it but, we were hundreds of feet above the ground, so lowering the nose was easy as well as the right thing to do.

He's got a day job and isn't there for the tip money. I should for sure buy him lunch though.

[Colonel]

[quote]you were getting slow and you lowered the nose instead of going for power[/quote]

Excellent.  Note that in a piston/prop aircraft, not only does
the throttle not do much (esp w/fixed pitch prop which won't
change RPM much)

... but if it actually does [i]do something[/i] at slow speed (eg
constant speed prop gets some RPM) it's likely to fuck you in
the ear, because of the assymmetry of the contracted rotating
slipstream, and the inability of the flight controls of aircraft to
oppose it elegantly at slow speeds.

Hundreds of times I would stall with negative alpha doing an
outside maneuver with my father doing formation aerobatics,
and the best recovery was always power off, minimum drag
which is reduced alpha.

Anyone tells you to jam the throttle forward in a piston aircraft
to recover from high alpha, they have not a clue.  You must

[b]LOWER THE NOSE[/b]

Four bars should feel free to make fun of my 40+ years of
flying stupid little airplanes, and then try to remember AF 447
and Colgan 3407.

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Been flying this particular airplane for 47 years now:

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Zero bent tin in a lifetime spent flying really weird stuff,
so I clearly have no clue about aviation.

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Shit away from a great height, four bars.  You've been dropping
tons of turds for decades, so why stop now?