Your Instincts Are Wrong

[Colonel]

Now, have I ever mentioned that picking up a
dropping wing with aileron is a really bad idea?

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Your instincts are wrong.  I spent a quarter of
a century trying to teach people new instincts.

We would talk on the ground before we took off
about the theory and why it was a bad idea.
And when a wing dropped, what did people do?
Why, they picked up the wing with aileron.
They weren't stupid.  [b]Their instincts were wrong[/b].

I have a theory about this.  See, when stuff happens
slowly, you have time to process events in real
time in your frontal lobes:

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But when stuff happens fast - faster than your frontal
lobes can process - your lizard brain takes over.

Your lizard brain is this lump on top of your brain
stem that takes care of basic body functions.  It
is ancient in it's origin.  And it is flying your airplane
when shit happens fast.

Now, would you want someone who only had a lizard
brain - their skull full of fluid - flying an airplane?
Well, that's you when shit happens fast.

I might mention that people who can process things
very very quickly through their frontal lobes have an
advantage, but this is a Canadian website and such
a lack of egalitarianism is considered fatal.

--
Your not-so-local substandard ex-instructor.

[David MacRay]

Partially in my case  because I drive cars every day, then once airbourne flying seems a bit like driving. I would confuse the yoke with a steering wheel. Turn wheel turn plane.

Wing drops turn yoke make it worse. Knowing the concepts was not helping me avoid that.

I improved my slow flight immensely during my annual hour of flying a few times ago, between reading this sort of thing and realizing.
Yoke ≠ steering wheel. So think about it being a yoke more, especially just before you fly.

I think airplanes should have sticks instead of yokes. That would not solve the problem but it might help.

Thanks.

[Chris]

Really? A Go Fund Me page to put his place back together?


When I (used to) take my car ice racing, it was pretty obvious to me that if I buggered it up, it was on me to fix it. Fortunately snowbanks are forgiving, but it was always a risk. You have an expensive hobby. Want someone else to pay for it? Find sponsors.

[Liquid Charlie]

If people learned to fly on "old" and airplanes where rudder is required for all control inputs and often trumps ailerons it would be a simpler world. th >:D

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Aaahh yes, do they not teach adverse yaw anymore?

[vanNostrum]

For some reason, unrelated to skill,[size=2] [font=verdana]since my early days of training ,[/font]p[/size]icking up a dropping wing
with rudder was almost automatic .
The problem was using the correct rudder, as I had to unlearn the habit of steering a soap box car by
pushing the pivoting front axle[size=2] [font=verdana]with my feet i[/font][/size][font=verdana][size=2px] i[/size][size=2]n a way that if I wanted to turn right I would push the [/size][/font]
[font=verdana][size=2]axle with my left foot[/size][size=2px]t[/size][/font] >:D

[Colonel]

[quote]do they not teach adverse yaw anymore?[/quote]

No.

I have said many times before that in a perfect world,
all pilots would spend their first 10 hours on (and solo
on) a NORDO tube & fabric taildragger with no electrical
system.  Just a portable ICS and two headsets with
boom mikes.  No comm, no nav, no gyros.  Just an
airspeed indicator, an altimeter and maybe a VSI.

Just a stick in their right hand, and a throttle in their left.

[img width=500 height=333]http://www.john2031.com/piper/j-3_cub/n3644n_4.JPG[/img]

The lessons learned would stay with them for a lifetime.

They would learn about adverse yaw.
They would learn to look outside and use the Big Horizon.
They would learn to prime, hand-bombing.

It doesn't matter what type.  Cub, champ, t-craft, all
same-same.

First 10 hours on a taildragger, solo, then onto some
crappy nosewheel POS with nav equipment.  I don't
know why people think they should stay on one type
from hour zero to completion of CPL.  That's in fact
a very bad idea, despite how common it is at FTU's.

People rarely pay any attention to what I say, but
when they do, they often go on to become extraordinary
pilots and engineers.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

You and I and many others understand these simple facts, the big question is why does the teaching industry not understand the basics of how to teach flying.

[Slick Goodlin]

[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=7382.msg20221#msg20221 date=1509330020]
You and I and many others understand these simple facts, the big question is why does the teaching industry not understand the basics of how to teach flying.
[/quote]
Because they don't know how to sell it to people.  Most coming off the street who don't know the first thing about flying simply wouldn't understand why the best airplanes were made eighty years ago.

[ScudRunner-d95]

[quote author=Chris link=topic=7382.msg20209#msg20209 date=1509311802]
Really? A Go Fund Me page to put his place back together?


When I (used to) take my car ice racing, it was pretty obvious to me that if I buggered it up, it was on me to fix it. Fortunately snowbanks are forgiving, but it was always a risk. You have an expensive hobby. Want someone else to pay for it? Find sponsors.
[/quote]


well seams the market has spoken $3,305 raised in 5 months of a 50K goal.



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