There is always a nugget - sometimes a boulder - of
truth behind a stereotype.
I think it's fair to say that there has been a precipitous
increase in the percentage of so-called professional pilots
that lack what I consider basic pilot skills, during my lifetime.
This is a result of the old breed retiring. See, they worked
their way up, moving from airline to airline. You look at
their ATPL and you can see a long list of types. Lots of
experience and knowledge there.
Not so today. Kids today are living the dream and skipping
the whole experience thing. Sometimes there are consequences
to taking the shortcut. Skills and knowledge are not obtained.
If those kids want to shit on me and tell me I don't know
anything, hey, that's cool.
I was flying before their fathers ejaculated bareback into
their mother's vagina for the first time.
Industry Insanity
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David MacRay
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Quoted for truth.
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6960.msg18869#msg18869 date=1504373963]
I think it's fair to say that there has been a precipitous
increase in the percentage of so-called professional pilots
that lack what I consider basic pilot skills, during my lifetime.
This is a result of the old breed retiring. See, they worked
their way up, moving from airline to airline. You look at
their ATPL and you can see a long list of types. Lots of
experience and knowledge there.
Not so today. Kids today are living the dream and skipping
the whole experience thing. Sometimes there are consequences
to taking the shortcut. Skills and knowledge are not obtained.
[/quote]
Quoted to respond to because I am obsessed.
[quote]There is always a nugget - sometimes a boulder - of
truth behind a stereotype.
[/quote]
Of course stereotypes exist because we see someone or a few people doing a particular thing a few times.
Sometimes it's even true, every single student in a yoke equipped aircraft will treat it like a steering wheel sometime.
The problem is I see few people do something bad and tend to think every person in the group is the same. It's human nature but we often ignore anyone, potentially a majority of the group that does not deserve to be lumped in.
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6960.msg18869#msg18869 date=1504373963]
I think it's fair to say that there has been a precipitous
increase in the percentage of so-called professional pilots
that lack what I consider basic pilot skills, during my lifetime.
This is a result of the old breed retiring. See, they worked
their way up, moving from airline to airline. You look at
their ATPL and you can see a long list of types. Lots of
experience and knowledge there.
Not so today. Kids today are living the dream and skipping
the whole experience thing. Sometimes there are consequences
to taking the shortcut. Skills and knowledge are not obtained.
[/quote]
Quoted to respond to because I am obsessed.
[quote]There is always a nugget - sometimes a boulder - of
truth behind a stereotype.
[/quote]
Of course stereotypes exist because we see someone or a few people doing a particular thing a few times.
Sometimes it's even true, every single student in a yoke equipped aircraft will treat it like a steering wheel sometime.
The problem is I see few people do something bad and tend to think every person in the group is the same. It's human nature but we often ignore anyone, potentially a majority of the group that does not deserve to be lumped in.
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JW Scud
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6960.msg18867#msg18867 date=1504368733]
In my lifetime, I have observed and have been proud to
participate in the incredible technological advances that
have made aviation so much safer.
GPS. Kalman filter, anyone?
Massive Databases. Cheap memory storage, anyone?
Powerful processors to crunch the data. Huge, cheap reliable RAM.
Incredibly high-resolution, low power color displays. GPU, anyone?
ANR headsets.
The list goes on, and on, of fantastic technological
accomplishments, just in the cockpit.
And it's so cheap! You can get all that in a cheap
handheld!
[b]And in my lifetime, I have seen basic pilot skills[/b]
[b]deteriorate so much, it's virtually an emergency[/b]
[b]when the precious four bars don't have an ILS[/b]
[b]at the destination[/b].
Will they put it into the sea wall? Will they
land on the taxiway? Will they put it into the
water? Will they blow out the landing gear?
All of these things routinely happen when four
bars don't have an ILS, because they lack
basic pilot skills that they have been telling
me for decades, are obsolete.
I spent 25 years continuously instructing, trying
to improve basic pilot skills that have virtually
disappeared from the pilot population. And I
got shit on for it, because instructors are fucking
morons. Got that.
And I spent 35 years, writing the very best
embedded software I could. And I will admit
I was paid very well for it.
Moment of irony. Some people need irony
explained to them, because they lack the
mental ability to perceive it.
Rockie - self-proclaimed [u]God Of the Four Bar
Assholes in The People's Republic of Canada[/u] -
used to tear me a new one, for wasting my
time writing embedded software, instead of
being a proud button-pushing heavy equipment
operator like him.
Fair enough.
Then some four-bar asshole here shits on me
because embedded software isn't up to his
standards.
Now, that's pretty funny.
Hey, four bar assholes, what about that job at
Airbus as Director of Software Engineering? The
recruiters wouldn't leave me alone, about that
job.
Now, you four bars are much smarter than I am,
so why don't you all fix the software? It pays a
lot better than pushing buttons, and you're at
home every night, and your wife isn't out fucking
some other guy.
[/quote]
Ahhh, the software guys:
Not only do fourbars have to save hundreds of lives from aircraft out of control such as in earlier examples, sometimes they die.
Checkout the A400 crash in Spain. Three engines failed due to a software data wipe. But hey, would the shutting down of three engines at the same time have ever been thought about as maybe not desirable and the programming done to never allow something like this to happen? No. Supposed geniuses creating emergencies.
Ahhh, the software guys.
In my lifetime, I have observed and have been proud to
participate in the incredible technological advances that
have made aviation so much safer.
GPS. Kalman filter, anyone?
Massive Databases. Cheap memory storage, anyone?
Powerful processors to crunch the data. Huge, cheap reliable RAM.
Incredibly high-resolution, low power color displays. GPU, anyone?
ANR headsets.
The list goes on, and on, of fantastic technological
accomplishments, just in the cockpit.
And it's so cheap! You can get all that in a cheap
handheld!
[b]And in my lifetime, I have seen basic pilot skills[/b]
[b]deteriorate so much, it's virtually an emergency[/b]
[b]when the precious four bars don't have an ILS[/b]
[b]at the destination[/b].
Will they put it into the sea wall? Will they
land on the taxiway? Will they put it into the
water? Will they blow out the landing gear?
All of these things routinely happen when four
bars don't have an ILS, because they lack
basic pilot skills that they have been telling
me for decades, are obsolete.
I spent 25 years continuously instructing, trying
to improve basic pilot skills that have virtually
disappeared from the pilot population. And I
got shit on for it, because instructors are fucking
morons. Got that.
And I spent 35 years, writing the very best
embedded software I could. And I will admit
I was paid very well for it.
Moment of irony. Some people need irony
explained to them, because they lack the
mental ability to perceive it.
Rockie - self-proclaimed [u]God Of the Four Bar
Assholes in The People's Republic of Canada[/u] -
used to tear me a new one, for wasting my
time writing embedded software, instead of
being a proud button-pushing heavy equipment
operator like him.
Fair enough.
Then some four-bar asshole here shits on me
because embedded software isn't up to his
standards.
Now, that's pretty funny.
Hey, four bar assholes, what about that job at
Airbus as Director of Software Engineering? The
recruiters wouldn't leave me alone, about that
job.
Now, you four bars are much smarter than I am,
so why don't you all fix the software? It pays a
lot better than pushing buttons, and you're at
home every night, and your wife isn't out fucking
some other guy.
[/quote]
Ahhh, the software guys:
Not only do fourbars have to save hundreds of lives from aircraft out of control such as in earlier examples, sometimes they die.
Checkout the A400 crash in Spain. Three engines failed due to a software data wipe. But hey, would the shutting down of three engines at the same time have ever been thought about as maybe not desirable and the programming done to never allow something like this to happen? No. Supposed geniuses creating emergencies.
Ahhh, the software guys.
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JW Scud
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6960.msg18877#msg18877 date=1504399389]
So, when do you start as Director of
Software Engineering at Airbus?
Should be an easy job for a Four Bar -
they sure talk a good game, don't they?
[/quote]
Why would I do that. I am busy reading incident reports caused by the software guys to learn the lessons of what the four bars did to save the lives of the screaming women and children.
Airbus software guys must be real geniuses.
Then there are all the other software screw-ups requiring endless patches.
At home, every night instead of doing their job right the first time.
Ahhh, the software guys.
So, when do you start as Director of
Software Engineering at Airbus?
Should be an easy job for a Four Bar -
they sure talk a good game, don't they?
[/quote]
Why would I do that. I am busy reading incident reports caused by the software guys to learn the lessons of what the four bars did to save the lives of the screaming women and children.
Airbus software guys must be real geniuses.
Then there are all the other software screw-ups requiring endless patches.
At home, every night instead of doing their job right the first time.
Ahhh, the software guys.
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Chuck Ellsworth
Aviation sure has changed since I first started flying.
We had a lot of mechanical problems crop up but software failures was not one of them.
We flew in the same weather as today's crews but automation was not something we had to worry about losing.
We did not even have autopilots in the DC3's.
And we did not have radar in most of them.
Yet somehow we got the flying done and most of us did it safely.
Maybe the difference was we " had " to know how to fly the airplane and how to think ahead of it, not behind it?
We had a lot of mechanical problems crop up but software failures was not one of them.
We flew in the same weather as today's crews but automation was not something we had to worry about losing.
We did not even have autopilots in the DC3's.
And we did not have radar in most of them.
Yet somehow we got the flying done and most of us did it safely.
Maybe the difference was we " had " to know how to fly the airplane and how to think ahead of it, not behind it?
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JW Scud
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- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:44 am
Then there are our other genius engineers designing aircraft that think they are so smart. Remember the Comet. How many people killed by those designing engineers.
Those so-called geniuses did a great job on the Electra with their whirl-mode making the wing fall off.
Ahhh, the engineers.
Those so-called geniuses did a great job on the Electra with their whirl-mode making the wing fall off.
Ahhh, the engineers.