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CargoJet rejects above V1 YWG

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:31 am
by Scudrunner

Occurrence Summary
Date Entered:2019-10-11

Narrative:
A Cargojet Airways Boeing 767-300 (CJT262) on a flight from Winnipeg/James Armstrong Richardson Int'l, MB (CYWG) to Iqaluit, NU (CYFB) rejected take off due to a flap configuration. The aircraft requested Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting (ARFF), as a precaution, to come out and follow them back to the Apron and check for hot brakes. No other impact to operations.

Occurrence Summary
Date Entered:2020-01-02

Narrative:
Update TSB Report #A19C0134: C-GCIJ, a Boeing 767-300 operated by CargoJet Airways, was conducting a flight from Winnipeg/James Armstrong Richardson International (CYWG), MB to Iqaluit (CYFB), NU. During the takeoff roll at CYWG, the flight crew observed a red FLAP EICAS message and aural warning subsequently rejecting takeoff above V1. The aircraft stopped within the confines of the runway and the crew subsequently followed the recommended brake-cooling schedule. ARFF was requested for precautionary measures and emergency vehicles escorted the aircraft safely to the ramp. The operator's maintenance identified the flaps could not retract and was stuck at 1 with FLAP/SLAT ELEC status message. Water was found on FSPM cards, the FSPM cards were dried and FSPM M838 was replaced. The flaps were cycled and tested normal with no further faults.

Re: CargoJet rejects above V1 YWG

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:10 pm
by Nark
Any 767 bubba's out there?

Why would you get an EICAS message for flaps on the takeoff roll?

The E170/190 does a takeoff config check, which requires the flaps to match the performance data in the FMS. If the handle is in position 1, and the FMS says 2, you get a master caution.

The Airbus (320 series) requires a T/O config before takeoff: checks the flaps are in a takeoff setting, not necessarily matching what is in the PERF FMS data, just as long as they're in a T/O position (1, 2, or 3).

We don't reject above 100knots for many things,100-V1 it's mostly for engine failure and controllability failures. After V1, it should be a very serious problem. Not sure flap config is in that category. Thankfully they had plenty of runway.

But, I'm sitting in my jam-jams drinking coffee while the snow falls.

Re: CargoJet rejects above V1 YWG

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:45 pm
by Scudrunner
I won't fault them they got it stopped, but ya I'm curious if someone has knowledge of the 767s as well.