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Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:11 pm
by Fendermandan
Or gyroplane as TC refers to it.


1. What are the hourly fixed costs like and what are the "other" costs not related to storage?
2. Does anyone operate gyro commercially other than training in Canada?


Just trying to compare the C172 vs 2 seat gyro operating costs.


Like this: http://www.gyroaventure.com/gyroplane-pilot.php  (not associated with these guys)




Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:22 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
The correct name is Gyroplane.


They are about the same cost to own and operate as a fixed wing of the same size.


The cruise speed is lower than a fixed wing.


However they are a trillion times more fun to fly.


I went to the USA and got a FAA Commercial Gyroplane License and then had it transfeered to my Canadian license.


The cost for the FAA license and the exams and test flight weere comparable to a fixed wing license.




Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:51 am
by ramjet555
For those in Western Canada, there is one Gyro at Medicine Hat.
Larry has a very nice machine and appears to provide a high standard of training.
His Cell is 403-548-5177.




Ramjet






Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:00 am
by Chuck Ellsworth
Once again:::


Of all the flying machines I have flown the gyroplanes were the most fun.

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:13 pm
by Liquid Charlie
Back in the 60's there was a company building and trying to market them out of Georgetown Ontario. They were in business for a few years but never made it go, (takeoff as it were -- haha) too bad they looked like great fun but gyroplanes just got a bad rap as being dangerous.

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:49 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
The reason there were so many accidents was due to two main factors.


(1)  Poor understanding of Gyroplane aerodynamics and design.


The best example of this was the RAF 2000, designed by people totally ignorant of the relationship of thrust line and the need for a horizontal stabilizer.


They were flying killers RAF refused to correct their miskakes in the design.


(2) The lack of proper training by people who understood the flying charistics of gyroplanes.


With properly designed gyroplanes combined with proper training the gyroplane is the safest flying machine you can get.

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:59 pm
by digits
[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=5115.msg13366#msg13366 date=1482680973]
With properly designed gyroplanes combined with proper training the gyroplane is the safest flying machine you can get.
[/quote]

Why would it be safer than a fixed wing airplane?

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:04 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
They are way more manoeuvrable and they do not stall or spin and if the engine quits you can land almost anywhere there are a few reasons for starters. :)


You have to take into consideration I have flown about everything that fly's and have based my choice for the best flying machine on that background.

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:07 pm
by Liquid Charlie
The gyroplane was my introduction to the term "retreating blade stall" - because they were being built in Georgetown they were always the subject of discussion around the table at the old BFC located at queen st and[size=2][font=Roboto][color=#000000] mclaughlin rd in brampton. [/color][/font][/size]

Re: Anybody operating gyrocopters

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:56 am
by Fendermandan
I'll check with some peeps at Bramton.