Wheel Landing

[Colonel]

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With a shimmying tailwheel, and what looks like
a crosswind from the left.  Notice the right rudder
deflection as he slows down.  Doesn't look like
he got much help from the tailwheel steering,
or the right brake.  Can't see the ailerons.

I keep telling people to make sure their tailwheel
is in good shape ... might make the difference as
to whether you wreck or not.

I'm not as bright as the average TC Inspector
but regardless of all the above, with a long
paved runway and the nose going left, a burst
of power might help make the right rudder more
effective.  If you run out of runway, leave the
power on full and get the hell out of there and
find another runway that's more into wind.

[David MacRay]

Yikes, looks like they may have at least not rolled enough to have touched the wing tip. Hope there was no damage to the plane or occupants.

[Colonel]

I have seen aircraft crack the spar, dragging a
wingtip during a groundloop.  Killed a good friend
of mine, Joe Broeders.

Also easy to whack the prop and toast the engine.

Even if none of the above occur, it is really easy
to bend the right main.  No one ever bothers checking
the main gear alignment of taildraggers, but this
sort of damage can make them difficult to land,
and no one can figure out why.

PS  Except for the handling issues, this sort of
plastic deformation of the landing gear/fuselage
is generally harmless from a structural standpoint.

Remember the supersonic 747?

[David MacRay]

[quote]Remember the supersonic 747?[/quote]

No. I suspect going that fast might be tough on a jumbo.

[Colonel]

The four-bars pulled +5G's in their split-s
from 40,000 feet.  Permanently bent the
wings, Boeing said fly it like that.

Regardless of what anyone says, that's
one tough airplane.

[David MacRay]

Imagine 5gs in the back of one of those? Hilarity insues.

[Chris]

[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=4918.msg12631#msg12631 date=1479702208]
The four-bars pulled +5G's in their split-s
from 40,000 feet.  Permanently bent the
wings, Boeing said fly it like that.

Regardless of what anyone says, that's
one tough airplane.
[/quote]


Is there more to that story? Inquiring minds and all...

[Colonel]

Back in 1985, when men were men and sheep were afraid:

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_006]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_006[/url]

[quote]Captain Ho had approximately 15,500 flight hours.
The first officer had more than 7,700 hours, and
the flight engineer had approximately 15,500 hours of flight time.

[i]The accident occurred while the main crew was on duty[/i].[/quote]

So, no pointing the fingers at the cruise kids.

This was a wall-to-wall four bar production. 

Larry, Curly and Moe fly a 747SP:

[quote]The sequence began when the No. 4 engine stalled at a low thrust setting and flamed out

After the flameout, the captain instructed the flight engineer to attempt to restart the engine,
while the plane remained at FL 410 (41,000 feet) with the autopilot still engaged and the bleed air on.

This was contrary to the flight manual procedure, which required the plane to be below 30,000 feet
(9,100 m) before any attempt to restart a flamed-out engine. The attempt failed.

The airspeed continued to decrease, while the autopilot rolled the control wheel to the maximum
left limit of 23 degrees[/quote]

You can probably guess what happens next, even
if the four bars didn't.

[quote]By the time the captain disconnected the autopilot,
the plane had rolled over 60 degrees to the right and
the nose had begun to drop.

To counteract the asymmetrical forces created by the loss
of thrust from the No. 4 engine, [b]it was essential for the pilot
to manually push on the left rudder[/b].

[b]However, the captain failed to use any rudder inputs at all[/b][/quote]

Why would he need to use the rudder?  He's
got a white shirt and four gold bars, and he
and the FE had 31,000 hours between them.

The four-bars like to badmouth Boeing, and
they will tell you what a hero you have to
be, to fly one.  What self-serving nonsense.
They're built like a tank so any clown can fly
one.

[Colonel]

Regardless of how bright your white shirt is, or how
many gold bars you have on your shoulder, when you
lose an engine and the speed bleeds off:

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- Turn off the fucking autopilot (Roselawn, anyone?)
- Lower the nose to maintain speed
- Push on the rudder pedal with that dainty little thing at the end of your leg

[i]Fly the fucking airplane[/i].

[ScudRunner-d95]

They made an episode on Mayday about China Airlines 006

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IIRC after that they didn't want to divert to SFO or the closest airport and wanted to continue to KLAX

:o