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Takeoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:49 am
by Colonel
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List causes 1 through 6, ten words or less. No googling.

Re: Takeoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:16 pm
by Nark1
1-4: pilot error./ dumbassery..
5: control lock still in place (elevator?)
6: load shift

Re: Takeoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:08 pm
by John Swallow
Does anyone remember the video of the L-19E that flew on and on in the mountains with the ground slowly rising beneath it...?

https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/coc ... tal-crash/


An earlier, longer version shows the aircraft flying well above the valley floor, but as the flight continues, the ground slowly comes up to meet them...

Re: Takeoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:17 pm
by BCPilotguy
1. Failure to get the nose down and accelerate in ground effect.
2. Failure to abort when he didn't have enough speed partway down the runway (though he didn't crash so maybe he knew exactly what he needed  ;D [font=verdana])[/font]
3. Density altitude (the pilot in that incident had about 300 hours and this was the second airplane he's wrecked, decision making is not his strong suit)
4. Pilot didn't decide on a landing site soon enough, and failed to maintain enough energy to flare prior to landing
5. Stuck elevator control lock
6. Load shift


I cheated on 3, 5, and 6 because I was already familiar with those cases.

Re: Takeoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:05 am
by Colonel
re: 1-3 ... you have to wonder what a lighter weight
(less fuel, pax, baggage) and perhaps leaning the
mixture at high density altitude might have done.


re: 4 ... it was a "brand new engine".  As I have

said before, the more maintenance an aircraft gets,
the less reliable it becomes.

Re: Takeoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:26 am
by David MacRay
Number 1 looked very heavy but also the tail was touching the ground a few times. I was initially thinking the pilot was pulling the yoke back too much. After watching it a few times I wonder if the center of gravity was too far aft.