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Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:02 pm
by Walter Sobchak
http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 3h0001.asp

Ridiculous corruption of a government funded organization.

Doesn't the timeline of the mass exodus of pilots, and management's subsequent inability to keep up with staffing/training roughly match the timeline of the Chris Mazza outing/scandal? People must have been 1. Embarrassed to be a part of it and 2. Worried the whole operation was on the verge of being shut down.


I feel for those managers who were put in an awful position. Would you try to stitch things together to keep an important service running? Or would you dig in your heels, admit you can't keep up and shut'er down cutting off the communities that depend on you, and creating another media firestorm in the process.

Re: Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:53 pm
by Colonel
Dalton McGuinty and Chris Mazza ought to be sharing
a jail cell, but it's weird that no one bothers to charge
them.

A black guy steals a hundred bucks, he's going to big
house.  A white guy steals a million bucks, he retires.

Brian Mulroney, anyone?

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Jean Cretin?

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsorship_scandal]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsorship_scandal[/url]

[quote]money awarded to Liberal Party-linked ad firms in return for little or no work, in which firms maintained Liberal organizers or fundraisers on their payrolls or donated back part of the money to the Liberal Party[/quote]

How many people went to jail as a result of that?  Let's see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Guit%C3%A9

[quote]he was sentenced to 42 months in jail. He appealed his conviction and sentence and both appeals were dismissed in 2008. Since he was granted bail pending appeal, his [b]42-month sentence did not begin until 2008[/b].

On December 23, 2008 the National Parole Board authorized Guité's conditional release making him [b]eligible for day parole on February 15, 2009[/b] and full parole on September 16, 2009.

Under Canadian law, first time non-violent offenders are allowed an accelerated review and a possible early release.[/quote]

Yup, it sure pays to be a corrupt white guy in Canadian
government.  So much for that "42 month sentence"



On the subject of corruption in Quebec:

[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-montr ... GB20130617]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-montr ... GB20130617[/url]

[quote]Montreal's new mayor, who pledged to stamp out corruption when he took office last November, was arrested and charged with fraud on Monday

The allegations are sure to reinforce the perception of widespread corruption in Quebec, particularly in the construction industry.

A special inquiry in the province, Canada's second-most populous, has heard multiple allegations of municipal contract rigging, kickbacks to politicians and illegal financing of elections.[/quote]

It sure pays to be a corrupt white guy in Canada.  The
entire government seems founded on that principal.

Re: Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:51 pm
by David MacRay
I like to think in such a situation I would try to look after the communities that need service.

Thing is, I also consider myself to be a guy shocked at what I see if I accidentally walk in the wrong office there.

Re: Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:49 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
When I flew in that area medivac's quite often were a way to get an airplane in to the "" community "" when the weather was to bad to fly.


I learned real fast to never accept their medical evacuations unless the weather was legal to fly in.


I made that mistake one time when they told me someone was going to die unless I got them out to a hospital in Great Whale river.


We managed to get in below limits and the illustrious members of the ""community "" met the airplane and the first thing they asked for was their freight....


....I said this is a medical emergency and there is no freight, they were enraged that I had not brought it.


I kicked their asses off the airplane and asked where the dying patient was, in the end I left with the "" community "" nurse and one patient.


They were enraged I would not take "" community "" members on the flight.


The hospital could not find anything wrong with the patient and I was asked to fly them back to Port Harrison.


I refused and got fired.



Re: Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:56 pm
by Liquid Charlie
[quote][font=Verdana][size=4]Port Harrison[/size][/font][/quote]  you are truly dating yourself --  ;D

Re: Root cause of the Ornge helicopter crash

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:38 am
by Slick Goodlin
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=3452.msg9639#msg9639 date=1466960017]
Dalton McGuinty and Chris Mazza ought to be sharing
a jail cell, but it's weird that no one bothers to charge
them.
[/quote]
IIRC Mazza was called to court but got off with a doctor's note.  Apparently that's a thing.