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Another One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:53 am
by Colonel
Gave this guy dual this summer on formation
flight so he could do the Oshkosh Mooney
Caravan arrival thing:

[url=http://www.canada.com/news/local-news/p ... story.html]http://www.canada.com/news/local-news/p ... story.html[/url]

This is really depressing, guys.  Please
don't do that.

Novel Idea:  Break all the fucking regulations
you want, but maybe, just maybe, don't crash
and die.

Why is everyone so concerned about the rules,
and mortally terrified of TC (Oh No!  A Registered
Letter! My Life Is Over!) but completely unafraid
of death?

I'm really getting tired and pissed off, watching
people I know, die around me.

Re: Another One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:13 am
by Colonel
All around me, I see people terrified of TC.

If they get a registered letter, their lives
are over.  Their loved ones will be roasted
with a flamethrower and thrown off a cliff.

But at the same time, they just couldn't
give a fuck about the unforgivable laws of
physics.

See, if they are legal, they must be safe.

[size=3.95em][b]WRONG[/b][/size]

Safety is found not in stupid man-made rules,
but in the knowledge of physics and the skill
of experience.

Why is this obvious only to cranky old pilots?

Try really hard not to crash.  It hurts, ok?
And it's really noisy.  Just say "no" to crashing.

Getting really tired of watching everyone die.

Re: Another One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:37 pm
by Colonel
[quote]the cause of the crash?[/quote]

You really think it will be a new one?

Re: Another One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:36 pm
by Liquid Charlie
I will echo the Colonel, I see it every day - Legal=safe when plainly under the set of circumstances it's not - it drives me fucking nuts. 

Re: Another One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:23 pm
by Colonel
[quote]he was doing something also illegal as well as unsafe?[/quote]

I'm a bit disappointed by your line of thinking.

You know that legality is almost completely
othogonal to safety.

An expert AME friend of mine, states that there
is NOT ONE legal aircraft in all of Canada.  You
let him look at the aircraft, or the books, and he
will find something rendering them not legal to
fly.

Perhaps 20 years ago, we were driving by the
FTU 172's.  He muttered "illegal".  I replied,
"That's ridiculous!  You didn't come within 20
feet of those aircraft?!  How on earth could you
know that they are illegal?!"

He replies, "4 inch letters on the tail.  Must be
6 inch".

Now, with your line of reasoning, if those 172's
crashed, would the 4 inch letters on the tail
(instead of the CAR's 6 inch) be a factor in the
accident?

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Definitions]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Definitions[/url]

Young pilots are being taught horribly wrong
and dangerous things.  At the FTU they are
taught that TC and the CARs have all the
answers.  And when they get a job at 702/703
it's the same.

But - is there a CAR prohibiting flight into a Cb?

That's legal, so it must be safe, right?

I am unable to even find a Tribunal precedent
wrt CAR 602.01 and intentional flight into Cb's
so I must presume that over many decades,
TC has no problem with pilots intentionally
flying into Cb's.

Horribly wrong.  We are teaching young people
that it's ok to kill themselves, as long as the
sacred paper is in order.

I vomit on my shoes at this insane nonsense.

Re: Another One

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:50 pm
by Colonel
[quote]The law, though it has some capacity to promote safety, largely doesn't function in that manner[/quote]

Unfortunately, it seems to take decades for pilots
to learn that, and in the process, an awful lot of
unnecessary deaths occur.

Maybe I'm (almost) alone here, but I have the
horrible feeling that we are doing this all wrong,
pointing people at the Holy Shrine of Paper and
telling them that if they act out every little detail
as it says, everything will work out ok.

The Emperor is bare-ass naked.  That's not true
at all!  Life is simply too complicated to be scripted
by some rules somewhere, that someone wrote
down.  If they are to survive, they need to learn
what's actually going on, and use their brain to
make the best choice.

That's what we need to teach pilots.

We are doing it all wrong.