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Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:54 am
by Scudrunner
Well that didn't take long for these type of jobs to reappear. I thought they all but disappeared
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 7&t=141720
All Flight Crew
* Commercial Pilot License with IATRA or ATPL
* Current Group 1 IFR
* Ability to Obtain a RAIC
* English Proficient
* Current Category 1 Medical
* Radio Operator Certificate
* Current Passport
* Eligibility to work in Canada
* Criminal Record/ Driving Record Check
* Valid Driver’s License
* Ability to lift 50 pounds unassisted
JS 31/32 First Officer Requirements:
250 TT, CPL + IATRA with at least 6 months validity, Current M-IFR
To apply, please submit your resume + CV to
employment@nwal.ca
Please, no direct phone calls or direct emails for this position. As applications outnumber vacancies, only selected candidates will be contacted for next steps.
**Current wait time in ground position approximately 12-18 months and completely based on company demand.**
*** After 1000 of on type flying, the pilot may be eligible to fly our various Cessna aircraft and 100 hours of PICUS in order to obtain required time for their ATPL.***
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:11 pm
by Doin_Time
Why are they asking for a current group 1 if the wait time to fly is 12-18 months? It's so sad to see this type of thing again. Supply and demand hard at work.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:36 pm
by Liquid_Charlie
Why are they asking for a current group 1 if the wait time to fly is 12-18 months? It's so sad to see this type of thing again. Supply and demand hard at work.
Yup full circle and the bonds will be fast and furious again.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:56 am
by Scudrunner
I really don’t see this industry getting back to normal for at least 3-5 years.
Some guy from India message me on Facebook asking about coming to Canada to be a pilot.
Don’t think he liked my response that thousands of very experienced Pilots are out of work here and the job markets going to suck for a long time.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:14 am
by trey kule
Is there numbers out there for the actual numbers? Porter, Sunwing, Transat, Westjest, AirCanada.
I keep hearing numbers from a few hundred to multi thousands.
Anyone have some hard numbers?
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:40 am
by Colonel
This makes me sad. I just can't believe how quickly things went
from incredibly awesome to horribly fucked up.
Again.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:32 am
by Slick Goodlin
At least they’re hiring? I know an awful lot of out-of-work pilots and I’d be one too if it weren’t for a really weird and expensive agreement the company had with the guy I replaced. As it is I’m still ten years behind where I was over the summer. Womp womp.
I chatted with a friend yesterday, another guy laid off from the majors, and he was saying some of the job ads he’s been looking at either directly or indirectly specify that they’re not looking for experienced pilots. We couldn’t decide if that was because they wanted fresh meat that would stay 5-6 years now, or if they knew a lot of furloughed guys taking a step or two back would be assholes about it.
I’m starting to think my “May you live in interesting times” fortune cookie was more of a curse.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:02 am
by Colonel
Every 10 years or so, things go to shit.
9/11 in 2001 was quite the turndown
2008-2009 bank meltdown was bad, but ...
2020 is really bad. Much of it is self-inflicted.
This is in line with the very old advice that you will be furloughed
three times in your career, which will probably span about 30 years.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:30 pm
by Liquid_Charlie
This is in line with the very old advice that you will be furloughed
three times in your career, which will probably span about 30 years.
Very true statement unless you are one who decided to work for a "remote" area carrier that has lots of freight to haul. The freight biz has just gone crazy and going this route gives about the most "job security" you can possibly hope for in this industry. The freight dogs, dogs of night, are sitting pretty compared to the people haulers. This goes back to circa 2012 but FedEx crews had the best contract of any pilot group.
Re: Pilot in Waiting Ad
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:17 pm
by Colonel
Freight dogs have no prestige.
If was going to fly big pigs for a living, that would be it. Fly all
night, don't give a shit about the bumps, sleep all day.
Great coin, IIRC. Who give a fuck that you don't have status.