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BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:51 am
by John Swallow
This from AvCanada (info unverified by me)
Just heard that some idiot with a C172 was draining fuel from his aircraft in a hangar and he had a trouble light with an old incandescent light in it. Fuel spilled on the light and caught fire. Other owners arrived to get their aircraft out but the fire cut the power and they couldn't open their doors,
So a Navajo is lost, a rare Chipmunk and some rare spare Gipsy Major engines, and a super rare original Avro 504 along with all the memorabilia that the owner had collected over the years which was his life as he spent a large amount of his time there. All because some idiot is stupid.
The link:
https://globalnews.ca/news/5019295/hang ... ying-club/

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:08 am
by digits
[quote author=John Swallow link=topic=9524.msg27053#msg27053 date=1551919882]
This from AvCanada (info unverified by me)
Just heard that some idiot with a C172 was draining fuel from his aircraft in a hangar and he had a trouble light with an old incandescent light in it. Fuel spilled on the light and caught fire. Other owners arrived to get their aircraft out but the fire cut the power and they couldn't open their doors,
So a Navajo is lost, a rare Chipmunk and some rare spare Gipsy Major engines, and a super rare original Avro 504 along with all the memorabilia that the owner had collected over the years which was his life as he spent a large amount of his time there. All because some idiot is stupid.
The link:
https://globalnews.ca/news/5019295/hang ... ying-club/
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Pretty freak accident though... Must have taken just the right amount of fuel/vapors/temperature to get it to ignite by a trouble light... Sad  :'(

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:57 am
by Rookie Pilot
[quote author=digits link=topic=9524.msg27054#msg27054 date=1551920889]

Pretty freak accident though... Must have taken just the right amount of fuel/vapors/temperature to get it to ignite by a trouble light... Sad  :'(
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Pelmet is on the job.  That guy loves trashing others. What a piece of work.  Probably is a flight sim pilot in Mom's basement. 

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:41 am
by Colonel
Was it a guy with a yellow biplane that started the fire?  Somehow,
I wouldn't find that surprising in the least.

PS More than just slightly tangentially ... Rookie Pilot, like him or not,
is indeed a real pilot.  I'm not sure exactly what that means, now that
I've typed it in, but ...  I met him some years ago when he flew his 182
to my old home airport where I used to live.

PPS The English language is very confusing.  "Real Pilot".  How about
"large lady's purse" ... is the lady large?  Or, is her purse large?

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:39 am
by JW Scud
If somebody burnt up my Avro 504 defueling their aircraft next door, I would be considering a lot more than just calling him an idiot. How many original 504's left?

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:58 pm
by Rookie Pilot
[quote author=JW Scud link=topic=9524.msg27060#msg27060 date=1551937178]
If somebody burnt up my Avro 504 defueling their aircraft next door, I would be considering a lot more than just calling him an idiot. How many original 504's left?
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Three kids died in the CYSN accident, and he couldn't give a shit.

Three kids are worth a lot more than any aircraft. 

That pissed me off.

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:16 pm
by Colonel
Safety is unimportant to many people, Rookie.  It seems insane to us, but
they have higher priorities, like virtue signaling.

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:03 pm
by Rookie Pilot
I value life,  yet get called a troll by what sounds like a bitter old man.

Pelmet thinks its perfectly fine for FTU's to make money sending off brand new instructors with teenage students on "experience" trips through hard convective  night IMC. 

No problem, all ended up dead -- no fault of FTU per Pelmet -- and heck insurance pays back for the clapped out Piper lost. 

No problem then.

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:28 pm
by Colonel
Not sure how this got so complicated.

Everyone in aviation knows that there is no fueling in a hangar.

Hint to the particularly dense:  liquid gasoline does not burn.  Only
after it evaporates and mixes in reasonable stoichiometric ratio with
oxygen, does gasoline vapor burn.  Sometimes, it's hard to do that.
Really.  Ever had trouble starting an engine?  Other times, it goes
up in a giant fireball.

Most sane people don't want to risk a fireball in their hangar.

If you don't know that, next time you ride a tube with fuzzy-cheeked
kids up front reading a book, and the stewardess gives a demonstration
of how the seat belt works, put up your hand and loudly state that you
didn't understand that, and could she demonstrate seat belt operation again?

Re: BRAMPTON HANGAR FIRE

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:50 pm
by Liquid Charlie
It's just as bad as the guy who yanks off the coil wire and checks the fuel pump into a jar -- instant fire ------- it just goes farther to prove that most accidents in aviation there has been a brain fart at some point preceding.