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Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:31 pm
by Eric Janson
What could possibly go wrong?

Oops!

[url=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... s-14007004]
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... s-14007004[/url]

Standard Lion Air Landing - looks like they're off the end instead of the side.

This is the Airline that has 2 over-runs at the same airport within 24 hours as part of its safety record.

Time to pull their AOC imho.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:15 pm
by Colonel
Remember, fundamental pilot skills like stick & rudder, and systems knowledge,
are unimportant to today's pushbutton aviator.  I know this is true, because they
keep telling me.

[img width=500 height=332]http://www.sa-transport.co.za/aircraft/ ... nding1.jpg[/img]

[img width=500 height=332]http://www.sa-transport.co.za/aircraft/ ... nding2.jpg[/img]

[img width=500 height=332]http://www.sa-transport.co.za/aircraft/ ... nding3.jpg[/img]

These guys are long gone.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:06 pm
by Slick Goodlin
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=9488.msg26774#msg26774 date=1550333738]
Remember, fundamental pilot skills like stick & rudder, and systems knowledge,
are unimportant to today's pushbutton aviator.
[/quote]
Ain’t that the truth?  Trying to explain that not knowing things can be terminal to a pilot has turned my hair grey way too early.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:18 pm
by Colonel
Oddly, many people are indifferent to things that can kill them, and they
care deeply about completely useless (but often very fashionable) nonsense.

That's ok, they just shouldn't be surprised when sh1t goes horribly wrong,
and I won't make sympathetic noises when it does.

Remember, no new causes of aviation accidents in 2019.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:38 am
by Slick Goodlin
It may be all fine and good for you to be okay with these guys flying for money, but I often rely on them as a passenger.  Knowing some of the people I know, there’s one common enough domestic airline I avoid as it is.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:12 am
by Eric Janson
And here's the video...



No surprises - long landing about 2000' down an 7382' runway leaves only 5382' to stop on a wet runway.

Probably fast too - didn't see much in the way of deceleration in the video.

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:45 pm
by Colonel
Approaching too fast to a wet runway, then failing to overshoot.

This is something new, right?

Re: Lion Air tries another landing

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:15 pm
by Eric Janson
[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=9488.msg26790#msg26790 date=155050https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/world/asia/l ... s.html4742]
Approaching too fast to a wet runway, then failing to overshoot.

This is something new, right?
[/quote]

Pretty normal at Lion Air!

Boeing will need to increase the 737 production rate to keep up with these clowns!

[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/worl ... lures.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/worl ... lures.html[/url]

AOC needs to be suspended ASAP imho.