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Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:30 pm
by Slick Goodlin
There I was, it was a beautiful September day in Southern Ontario as I pulled up to a rural T intersection.  I saw movement out of the corner of my eye and looked to see something white  maybe the size of a softball coming straight down about 30-40 feet beside the car and when it hit the ground it exploded like a snowball.  Nobody else was anywhere near to have thrown it and even if they did, it was falling vertically so they would have had to throw it a long way up.

So what the hell was it?  A ball of ice clinging to an antenna or something on a jet way up in the flight levels that finally let go?

Re: Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:44 pm
by Colonel
Did you see a UFO landing pad nearby?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hell ... ial_issues

[quote]When the Liberals returned to power in the 1963 election, Hellyer became Minister of National Defence in the cabinet of Lester B. Pearson.

On 3 June 1967, Hellyer flew in by helicopter to officially inaugurate an unidentified flying object landing pad in St. Paul, Alberta.

In early September 2005, Hellyer made headlines by publicly announcing that he believed in the existence of UFOs. On 25 September 2005, he was an invited speaker at an exopolitics conference in Toronto, where he told the audience that he had seen a UFO one night[/quote]

[img width=500 height=336]https://images1.westword.com/imager/u/o ... eyfuss.jpg[/img]

Paul Hellyer was pretty far out there.  He made everyone wear green, and was responsible
for Canada's nuclear weapons.  I wish I was making this insanity up.

Re: Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:54 pm
by John Swallow

I have seen many an UFO.  They do exist.


We all have.




Re: Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:38 pm
by Colonel
When I was living in Ottawa, the news reported that
the same house in Barrhaven beneath the ILS7 loc
was hit twice by huge chunks of blue ice.

Don’t be licking those UFO’s, ok?

PS Amazing accuracy, normally only possible with
laser guidance, hitting the same house twice.  Clearly
some supernatural or extraterrestrial forced involved.

Re: Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:50 pm
by David MacRay
Wait. Paul? St Paul Alberta? Southern Ontario?

I bet nobody is mowing the grass that has reclaimed that landing pad. Has anyone been to St Psul Alberta? Maybe we need to do some recon.

Walking on the runways of all the old commonwealth air training plan triangles I have visited near here, I noticed it's hard to believe they were nice smooth asphalt pavement at one time. You can see them on the survey pictures google calls "satellite" most are taken from airplanes though. Driving up you can't tell it apart from the rest of the grass until you get almost right on top of them.  When I was a child I thought asphalt lasted forever as long as they filled the pot holes.

The former catp airdrome at Highriver is not even where the airport is. There is one a few miles away from Vulcan, I think that was called Vulcan but now it has a single runway yet they built a new Vulcan airport in Vulcan.

I was at Clareshilm on Saturday. I should have walked my dog on the east side of the perimeter fence to see what those missing sides of the triangle look like. I did a touch and go there on the way back to YBW on my second student solo.

Back on topic of unidentified falling ice hitting the road near a car. I had a very similar experience near CYYC. Specifically on McKnight Boulevard going east bound toward the bridge over Deerfoot Trail. I was wondering the same things.

Re: Was it airframe ice?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:33 am
by Eric Janson
[quote author=Slick Goodlin link=topic=9446.msg26344#msg26344 date=1547040607]
So what the hell was it?  A ball of ice clinging to an antenna or something on a jet way up in the flight levels that finally let go?
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2 possibilities that immediately come to mind.

- Leaking lavatory drain valve. Ice will build up and shed when the aircraft reaches warmer altitudes. This normally has a blue colour due to the chemicals added to the toilet. That's why it is called "Blue Ice".

- Drain mast heater not working. Each galley sink has a drain that exits overboard. Each drain mast has a heater. If this fails then ice build up is possible and again it will let go at lower altitudes.

I was passenger on a 757 where a chunk of blue ice hit the inboard slat punching a hole right through it and damaging the wing structure behind it. Boeing had to take replacement parts off an aircraft on the production line.