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Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:05 pm
by Colonel
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I know I'm not going to get much sympathy about the wx, but
at times like this, I wish I had a cub or champ or t-craft that I
could land across the runway, or maybe tie it to the airport fence
with a piece of rope and fly it like a kite.

Back east, I could slow down but not quite stop a Citabria over
the runway.  Wind never seemed to be strong enough.  If I could
fly backwards over the airport - preferably in formation - I would
be a complete man.

Wind wasn't a problem last time I drove through Wyoming.  Wind
was 60 mph.  No typo.  Sign on the highway said no light trailers,
which they didn't tell me about when I crossed the border in NY.
Just walking in the gas station parking lot was ridiculous - you got
sandblasted, walking at a 45 degree angle into the headwind.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:10 pm
by Chris
Caught a video the other day of a Kitfox landing in a heavy crosswind. His technique was to fly final high and a couple hundred feet to the side of the runway and then turn and land perpendicular and roll out onto a taxiway.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:13 pm
by Colonel
Have to be careful about that.

Oddly, TC is laying charges (CAR 602.01) for reckless and negligent
when people are landing on other than the runway.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:06 am
by anofly
Hanover ontario. I know a guy that once took a tri pacer off, into a cross wind, across a bit of ramp, short  taxi way and sideways across the runway, he was off before the runway.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:01 am
by mmm...bacon
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Have to be careful about that.

Oddly, TC is laying charges (CAR 602.01) for reckless and negligent
when people are landing on other than the runway.
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Does it say which way you have to land on the runway?  If you were to land across it, as long as the tail was down prior to your entering the taxiway, then the landing phase is over on the runway, and you should be all good, no?

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:08 am
by Colonel
If you ever go to OSH, you will see the taxiway on the right of 36
being used as a runway.  Be sure to point that out to any TC Inspectors
there, so they can charge any C-reg aircraft utilizing it.

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Very BAD PEOPLE at OSH.

[quote]Hanover ontario[/quote]

um, uh ... never mind.  Too easy.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:29 am
by David MacRay
They also run four or more runways at the same time with guys landing on some, while other planes are not quite pulled onto the grass yet.

I don't know if it was real or maybe the sign was broken but someone posted a picture of the wind warning sign on highway 22. It said 167K/HR.

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:50 pm
by John Swallow

[left][font=arial][color=rgb(90, 90, 90)]"[/color][color=black]Oddly, TC is laying charges (CAR 602.01) for reckless and negligent [/color][/font][/left][font=arial][/font][left][font=arial][color=black]when people are landing on other than the runway."[/color][/font][/left]

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[left][color=black][font=arial]Can anybody point out the exact charge and the incident which precipitated it?[/font][/color][/left]

[color=black][font=arial]The only way you would get a charge under 602.01 would be if Enforcement could prove that there recklessness or negligence involved.[/font][/color]


[color=black][font=arial]I think we can all think of situations where a landing on a taxiway or the grass or the ramp would be preferable to landing on the runway...[/font][/color]


[font=arial]I can also think of situations whereby such a charge might be warranted...[/font]

Re: Sporty Crosswind Yesterday

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:55 pm
by Colonel
It was in the COPA paper where they summarize enforcement actions.

602.01 is what Enforcement says it is.  It’s what
they charge you with, when you don’t break any
regs but they don’t like you.  It’s a wonderfully
subjective hammer that they have to swing around.