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Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:50 am
by Colonel
This is an oldie but a goodie ... and an
interesting contrast to the PPL that just
crashed a C310 at KDYL (3000 feet):

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No wire.  No catapult.  Just two guys
that had [i]never flown a four engine aircraft
before[/i] which I am sure will piss off
the four-bars.

It's pretty funny that when you need something
difficult and dangerous done with precision and
accuracy in a four-engine aircraft, you don't go
get some guys that have flown thousands of hours
of straight and level in large multi-engine aircraft ...

No, you go and get a good couple of sticks.  One
of whom (in the army ranks that Canada is in love
with) was the equivalent of a Major, and the
other a mere Captain.

It shows how useless multi-engine time is.  See
previous thread about people practicing their
mistakes.

Harrumph!

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:13 am
by Eric Janson
[quote author=Colonel link=topic=509.msg1894#msg1894 date=1437299423]
This is an oldie but a goodie ... and an
interesting contrast to the PPL that just
crashed a C310 at KDYL (3000 feet):



No wire.  No catapult.  Just two guys
that had [i]never flown a four engine aircraft
before[/i] which I am sure will piss off
the four-bars.
[/quote]

The video does say that they did some training first. They certainly didn't just jump in and start flying.

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:58 am
by Colonel
[quote]they did some training first[/quote]

You're kind of missing the entire point.

You can send a baboon to Flightsafety, and
what you have at the end is a baboon.  Do
recall that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_Jr.#Death

JFK, jr attended FlightSafety and look at how
that turned out.  Three fatalities and his family
paid out millions in the ensuing wrongful death
lawsuit.

The two USN pilots flying that Herc were great
sticks.  Great sticks can fly anything.


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That was a real pilot, not an imposter in a costume.

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:28 pm
by Tailwind W10
[quote author=Colonel link=topic=509.msg1906#msg1906 date=1437382683]
Great sticks can fly anything.



That was a real pilot, not an imposter in a costume.
[/quote]

The one point I've always liked about that video is the pilots comentary.  He's constantly calling out his airspeed, he knows VERY precisely what his airplane is doing.  He's very unlikely to get himself in trouble with that level of situational awareness.

Gerry

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:26 am
by Colonel
They don't make them like that
old guy, any more!

I love the reactions of the chubby
young fellow in the right seat ...

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:13 am
by duCapo
That is some smooth flyin

Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:14 am
by Eric Janson
[quote author=Colonel link=topic=509.msg1906#msg1906 date=1437382683]
[quote]they did some training first[/quote]

You're kind of missing the entire point.[/quote]

I understand the point - you need the best qualified people to accomplish the objective.

If the objective is to land a Herc on a carrier then the only way to do this is to take people with carrier landing experience and train them on the Herc. Trying to do things the other way round probably won't work.

[quote]The two USN pilots flying that Herc were great
sticks.  Great sticks can fly anything.[/quote]

No argument there.


Re: Herc on a Carrier

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:17 pm
by Colonel
[quote]'special' aviation skills[/quote]

Pilots are lazy.  I have been telling them
for years to buy half of a Pitts S1 and fly
the shit out of it, but they can't be bothered
to develop the fundamental stick and rudder
and aerobatic skills.  Hell, just getting people
to fly tailwheel is like becoming an astronaut.

It's not the money.  It's just a lot easier to
sit on the couch and drink beer and watch
TV and get fat.

I tell pilots that they should fly twice a day
if they want to get better, and they can't be
bothered.  So many airplanes sit abandoned
at airports all across North America.  They
haven't flown in months (or years) because
their owners are too lazy to drive out to the
airport.

I have real trouble feeling sorry for these
people.  No wonder they have shit skills.