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I keep saying this over and over and over and over and over and over again ...
Please don't use bank to avoid another aircraft. Wings level. If
you are beneath the other aircraft, maximum negative G. If you
are above the other aircraft, maximum positive G.
[size=18pt][b]LOOK OUTSIDE[/b][/size]
There will be [i]no new causes[/i] of aviation accidents in 2018. Just
replays of old ones.
NB Your flight envelope will recommend a maximum G (either
positive or negative) at any given airspeed. I might humbly
recommend as your not-so-local [b]BAD PERSON[/b] (as designated
by TC) that you seriously consider using [i]ultimate[/i] instead of [i]design[/i]
limit, when you consider the alternative to a wrinkled structure.
PS In my world, the faster, overtaking aircraft bears the responsibility
of avoiding the slower aircraft. When I used to drive around a very
similar uncontrolled airport not too far from this at 400 KIAS I took
this responsibility very seriously. It was up to me, to see and avoid
the slower aircraft I was overtaking. I guess that's not the way it is
any more.
[quote][b]CAR 602.19[/b] Right of Way — General
(6) An [b]aircraft that is being overtaken has the right of way[/b] and the pilot-in-command of the overtaking aircraft, whether climbing, descending or in level flight, shall give way to the other aircraft by altering the heading of the overtaking aircraft to the right, and no subsequent change in the relative positions of the two aircraft shall absolve the pilot-in-command of the overtaking aircraft from this obligation until that aircraft has entirely passed and is clear of the other aircraft.
(eight) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft that is approaching an aerodrome for the purpose of landing [b]shall give way to any aircraft at a lower altitude[/b] that is also approaching the aerodrome for the purpose of landing.
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I have USD$100 that says that [b]NO CHARGES[/b] will be laid. Any takers?
LOOK OUTSIDE
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Liquid Charlie
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Unfortunately it's a sighn of the times. Radios have replaced eyes for traffic -
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Slick Goodlin
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[quote author=Liquid Charlie link=topic=9293.msg25575#msg25575 date=1541684216]
Unfortunately it's a sighn of the times. Radios have replaced eyes for traffic -
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A sign of [i]what[/i] times? Mid-airs have unfortunately been going on ever since there was more than one airplane. Same with car crashes, the first two cars in Ohio managed to hit each other and they were probably only doing six miles an hour.
The people of the present day in no way have a monopoly on having their heads in their asses.
Unfortunately it's a sighn of the times. Radios have replaced eyes for traffic -
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A sign of [i]what[/i] times? Mid-airs have unfortunately been going on ever since there was more than one airplane. Same with car crashes, the first two cars in Ohio managed to hit each other and they were probably only doing six miles an hour.
The people of the present day in no way have a monopoly on having their heads in their asses.
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Colonel
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Back in the day, VFR mid-airs tended to happen in two places:
1) over a VOR
2) on short final (within a mile of runway) at an uncontrolled airport
Both of the above are a result of some unnatural concentration of
aircraft. Big Sky is what keeps you alive, most of the time.
These days, GPS makes it much worse. Around 20 years ago, a
mid-air collision happened up in your neck of the woods out in the
middle of nowhere, and we all learned about the dangers of precise
tracking between well-known GPS waypoints. The pilots in this case
were very precise in their altitude and tracking.
This recent case at Carp - remember, no new causes of aviation
accidents this year - is a bit unusual, because it appears to have
occurred on downwind, as opposed to the classical short final mid-air,
from where the wreckage of the 150 landed.
1) over a VOR
2) on short final (within a mile of runway) at an uncontrolled airport
Both of the above are a result of some unnatural concentration of
aircraft. Big Sky is what keeps you alive, most of the time.
These days, GPS makes it much worse. Around 20 years ago, a
mid-air collision happened up in your neck of the woods out in the
middle of nowhere, and we all learned about the dangers of precise
tracking between well-known GPS waypoints. The pilots in this case
were very precise in their altitude and tracking.
This recent case at Carp - remember, no new causes of aviation
accidents this year - is a bit unusual, because it appears to have
occurred on downwind, as opposed to the classical short final mid-air,
from where the wreckage of the 150 landed.
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David MacRay
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[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=9293.msg25591#msg25591 date=1541775996]
These days, GPS makes it much worse. Around 20 years ago, a
mid-air collision happened up in your neck of the woods out in the
middle of nowhere, and we all learned about the dangers of precise
tracking between well-known GPS waypoints. The pilots in this case
were very precise in their altitude and tracking.
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Sometimes I wonder what would happen if everyone set their track on route one mile right of the popular one?
These days, GPS makes it much worse. Around 20 years ago, a
mid-air collision happened up in your neck of the woods out in the
middle of nowhere, and we all learned about the dangers of precise
tracking between well-known GPS waypoints. The pilots in this case
were very precise in their altitude and tracking.
[/quote]
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if everyone set their track on route one mile right of the popular one?
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Colonel
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Mid-air collisions would then occur one mile over.
Open loop vs closed loop control. I see this all the time.
There are two parallel super-highways running north-south
on the east bay, across from me. Everyone's GPS directs them
to the same cross-over exit between the two, because in an
open loop world, it is the best choice because it is the shortest
distance.
Because their GPS systems are open loop (no inputs) I laugh
when I manually drive past them, cars dangerously lined up
at the hopelessly clogged-up GPS-chosen exit, and I hop across
at the next exit, which is perhaps 100 feet longer, but is deserted
because GPS says not to use it, so there are no cars there, because
all [b]GOOD PEOPLE[/b] do what cockpit automation tells them to do -
they never take manual control and make an intelligent decision,
because only [b]BAD PEOPLE[/b] do that.
Gotta love when automation and the toys results in suboptimal
results. No one [i]ever[/i] thinks that can happen.
Open loop vs closed loop control. I see this all the time.
There are two parallel super-highways running north-south
on the east bay, across from me. Everyone's GPS directs them
to the same cross-over exit between the two, because in an
open loop world, it is the best choice because it is the shortest
distance.
Because their GPS systems are open loop (no inputs) I laugh
when I manually drive past them, cars dangerously lined up
at the hopelessly clogged-up GPS-chosen exit, and I hop across
at the next exit, which is perhaps 100 feet longer, but is deserted
because GPS says not to use it, so there are no cars there, because
all [b]GOOD PEOPLE[/b] do what cockpit automation tells them to do -
they never take manual control and make an intelligent decision,
because only [b]BAD PEOPLE[/b] do that.
Gotta love when automation and the toys results in suboptimal
results. No one [i]ever[/i] thinks that can happen.
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David MacRay
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Would you hit me from behind because you are going faster?
I thought going north I would be one mile east of center and going south you would be one mile west giving us two miles separation. Uncomfortably close, but better than being in the middle with the GPS folks.
I thought going north I would be one mile east of center and going south you would be one mile west giving us two miles separation. Uncomfortably close, but better than being in the middle with the GPS folks.
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Slick Goodlin
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[quote author=David MacRay link=topic=9293.msg25596#msg25596 date=1541782831]
Would you hit me from behind because you are going faster?
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With the accuracy of GPS? Yes.
Would you hit me from behind because you are going faster?
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With the accuracy of GPS? Yes.
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