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Meanwhile in India

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:47 am
by Eric Janson
Nothing to see here - move along!
[url=http://avherald.com/h?article=4bedd321&opt=0]http://avherald.com/h?article=4bedd321&opt=0[/url]
The wall is a 1000' beyond the end of the runway - must have dragged the wheels through the grass as well. Luckily they don't build very strong walls in that part of the World.
I've flown in and out of this airport when the runway was 1000' shorter. I used to get comments like "Your brake temperatures are the lowest I've seen here" and "We still have a 1000' of runway in front of us".

Really makes you wonder....

There are power lines just a bit further along the departure path off 27 - if they went through the wall then I'm not sure how they would have missed these.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:33 pm
by Chris
Gotta hand it to Boeing, they know how to build tough airplanes.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:38 am
by David MacRay
I still think about that lady in India that bought her license. She finally did enough damage landing on the nose gear to get investigated. They couldn't find any entries in journey logs to prove she ever flew before she was hired as an FO with a fresh Comercial license.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:06 am
by Colonel
Everyone knows you are [i]winning[/i] when you get on a large aircraft with low time.

[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9QS0q3mGPGg/hqdefault.jpg[/img]

Who needs experience?  Knowledge and skill are so passe, if you have pretty
uniforms and checklists.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:32 am
by Eric Janson
In a lot of countries there is little to no General Aviation. There is no way for people to build experience in smaller aircraft.
You can put low time Pilots in the right seat of Jets - even Western Airlines like BA, KLM and Lufthansa have cadet programmes.
Training is geared to the experience level.

One thing you can [b]never[/b] do - is put these cadets in a Navajo or similar. That won't end well.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:36 am
by Colonel
[quote]low time Pilots in the right seat of Jets[/quote]

That's kind of a fraud, because that's not really a two-pilot
operation, appearances aside. 

That's a single pilot operation, where the guy in the left seat
has to fly the airplane [b]and[/b] also give instruction to the guy in
the right seat, who really should be logging dual flight instruction
received.

Which once again, makes my point.  One good pilot is [i]always[/i]
better than two shitty pilots.

I'm not always a fan of the FAA, but it was refreshing to see them
buck the trend, and tell people to get an ATP if they want to fly 121.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:07 pm
by Colonel
Bottom line:  Boeing builds a good airplane.

Heck, you can fly one [i]into[/i] the seawall at SFO and only kill 3 people out of 307 aboard.

[quote]Two 16-year-old girls with Chinese passports were found dead outside the aircraft soon after the crash, having been thrown out of the aircraft during the accident.

[b]Neither victim was using her seatbelt.[/b]

[b]It is likely that these passengers would have remained in the cabin and survived had they been wearing their seatbelts.[/b]

... the girl who was one of the two immediate fatalities was still alive prior to being run over by a rescue vehicle, and was killed due to blunt force trauma[/quote]

[img width=500 height=284]http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-conte ... 40x364.jpg[/img]

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:12 pm
by Colonel
IMHO if you are in the right seat of a large aircraft [i]without[/i]
an ATP, you ought to log dual flight instruction received, to
more accurately reflect the true nature of the ops.




Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:35 am
by Nark1
Even with an ATP in the right seat, the FAA deems captains as giving dual instruction.


I can renew my flight instructor certs based solely on PIC in a 121 environment.


Previously I had to attend online renewal courses which run about 20 hours.

Re: Meanwhile in India

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:35 am
by Colonel
That kinda makes sense.  And I know your pain about those online
courses.  I got a ticket for 87 MPH on I-280 (I was driving too slowly
and obstructing traffic) and I had to do traffic school online.