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DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:14 am
by John Swallow

Today:



Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:16 am
by Colonel
Was that a "good job" or a "learning experience"?

From the video it is clear the pilot must have been
an imposter, and knew little or nothing about aviation.

[youtube][/youtube]

I'm not saying that's always a bad thing ...

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:24 pm
by Rookie Pilot
Too much nose up  trim?

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:19 pm
by Colonel
The pilot attempted a soft-field takeoff with the tailwheel
planted during the takeoff run, which is extraordinary in
a large multi-engine taildragger.

He levitated into ground effect at an airspeed which was
much too slow and the result was a stall, first on one wing,
then the other.

A normal takeoff would be to raise the tail, accelerate to
a safe speed with the mains planted, and [i]then[/i] rotate. 

I cringe to think what Chuck or LC or EricJ are going to
say about this bizarre takeoff attempt by a pilot that clearly
hated the airplane.

This is how a sane pilot takes off in a large taildragger -
skip forward to 2:30:

[youtube][/youtube]

TC [i]loves[/i] soft and short field takeoffs.  They want the student
to practice them long before they have mastered a normal or
crosswind takeoff, for some demented reason.  I remember a
few years back, the FTU at Rockcliffe actually listened to this
nonsense - hey, it's a government town, don't expect too much -
and the resulting pile of wrecked Cessnas was really impressive.

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:15 pm
by Chuck Ellsworth
[quote][font=Verdana]I cringe to think what Chuck or LC or EricJ are going to [/font][font=Verdana]say about this bizarre takeoff attempt by a pilot that clearlyhated the airplane.[/font][/quote][font=Verdana]


I am at a loss for words to describe that stunning lack of flying ability.


Maybe a homeless grandmother smoking crack cocaine stole the thing......[/font]

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:05 pm
by CD
In happier days...
[img width=500 height=228]https://archive.is/UK4FM/634d3180790915 ... 39251e.jpg[/img]

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:04 am
by Slick Goodlin
That accident is so bizarre I kind of wonder if some level of pilot incapacitation played a part.

Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:55 am
by cgzro
Wouldn't any kind of three point take-off also put you below VMC and therefore be a no-no in a twin tail dragger?




Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:08 am
by Chuck Ellsworth
[quote]Wouldn't any kind of three point take-off also put you below VMC and therefore be a no-no in a twin tail dragger?[/quote]


Not to mention at or the critical angle of attack.


I just can not figure out how they managed to do that because it takes a real determined pilot to keep the tail wheel pinned on the ground with the mains in the air.




Re: DC-3 MISHAP

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:21 am
by Rookie Pilot
[quote author=Chuck Ellsworth link=topic=8767.msg24094#msg24094 date=1532311723]
[quote]Wouldn't any kind of three point take-off also put you below VMC and therefore be a no-no in a twin tail dragger?[/quote]


Not to mention at or the critical angle of attack.


I just can not figure out how they managed to do that because it takes a real determined pilot to keep the tail wheel pinned on the ground with the mains in the air.
[/quote]


Hence maybe trim?