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Rookie Pilot
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1.  Outwork everyone. Do that, money jobs and opportunities are never an issue.


2. Absolutely  Refuse all monetary help for your ratings, from the bank of mom and dad. Man up, and tell them, "no thanks, I'd rather get there on my own".


3.  Do #2, and Move out at 18. Get your own place, cheap, cheap car, work like a dog, get your ratings.  Builds character that will last a lifetime. Avoid debt.  Debt is evil. 


4. Do whatever it takes to help your company, who gives your snivelling snot nosed face a chance, make money. In other words, do # 1.  Money will fall from the sky, in time.  Maybe one day, the company wlll be your own.


5.  Become a student for life. Learn in every situation. 


Most of you think I'm nuts, by now.  A few might not. 


Chuck Ellsworth

Looks logical to me.
Slick Goodlin
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Story checks out, though if #2 takes the form of a loan with a lower interest rate than the bank that's just financially prudent.


I'll never forget the day years and years ago when a coworker was just roasting me all morning out of nowhere about how stupid I was for owing money on the loan that got me my CPL.  Bear in mind this was like six months after finishing training and he was a classmate of mine.  I finally couldn't atand ignoring him any longer so I finally questioned how he was able to do it without a loan (he talked stock theories all day, after all) and he his financial wizardry was really just his grandma paying for school.  I couldn't help but ask, "Does she want to pay for my license too?"


Come to think of it, he's been much more successful than I have so maybe there was something to this whole getting someone else to pay for it plan.
Rookie Pilot
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[quote author=Shiny link=topic=7104.msg19248#msg19248 date=1505852162]
Actually number 4. Isn't very true either. To some degree yes, but no one respects anyone who doesn't speak up for themselves, and certainly if you don't draw attention to the fact of your contribution, it will be forever taken for granted.
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There's a second part to this. When I had a job, I worked like a dog....but I paired that with agressive promotion  and negotiation whenever the opportunity presented. If they didn't respond to that, I was gone. 
Colonel
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Someone whom is lazy but plays the politics well,
will always do better than some roadkill that just
works hard and doesn't kiss the right ass.

It isn't what you know.  It's who you know.
Trey Kule
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"Someone whom is lazy but plays the politics well,
will always do better than some roadkill that just
works hard and doesn't kiss the right ass.

It isn't what you know.  It's who you know."


Lots of truth in that.
Self promotion is a huge part og getting ahead.
And schmoozing, schmoozing, schmoozing,


I have seen some great pilots passed by the noisy ones.
And seen some really lousy pilots bring promoted way above their ability in the scramble to show gender divirsity.


Management has its faults.









Rookie Pilot
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[quote author=Trey Kule link=topic=7104.msg19264#msg19264 date=1505870043]



"Someone whom is lazy but plays the politics well,
will always do better than some roadkill that just
works hard and doesn't kiss the right ass.

It isn't what you know.  It's who you know."


Lots of truth in that.
Self promotion is a huge part og getting ahead.
And schmoozing, schmoozing, schmoozing,


I have seen some great pilots passed by the noisy ones.
And seen some really lousy pilots bring promoted way above their ability in the scramble to show gender divirsity.


Management has its faults.
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Maybe in the short run.  In the long run, you had better perform, too.  At least in my experience.
ScudRunner-d95
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I just read a story about people who change companies often ( 2 years ) do much better financially than company guys who stick it out.

It might apply to aviation as well......

Thought I would through that out there.
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