[quote author=Colonel Sanders link=topic=6397.msg17038#msg17038 date=1496845240]
[quote]I would really like to know what happened[/quote]
Witness accounts vary, and they are of course garbled
by the reporter, but it's possible there was an engine
failure shortly after takeoff, which is not surprising if
the aircraft just came out of maintenance.
Despite the honking and the screeching, it has saved my
bacon several times, to be able to fly a broken airplane,
something no one ever, ever talks about.
Ted similarly was such an expert. One was to wonder if
he was fighting both the airplane and the student that
he was giving dual to, and if he would be still alive if
he was alone in the cockpit. The four bars will harrumph
and of course disagree, because they are [i]certain[/i] that
more pilots in the cockpit are always better.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia ... Flight_235[/url]
I only instructed for a quarter of a century continuously,
which is not much compared to the experts, but I had
some pretty unpleasant experiences with very strong
students freezing at the controls, or doing something
completely wrong with the controls. See the four bars
in AF447, Colgan 3407, etc.
This can become a serious problem close to the ground,
when there is precious little time to console a student
about his feelings.
I doubt we will ever know what happened in that
cockpit.
When I used to teach new aerobatic instructors, I
told them that the real purpose of the fire extinguisher
in an aerobatic airplane was to use it to disable the
student when he was doing something horribly wrong.
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Exactly what physical evidence do you have he fought the student for control?
Stop talking out of your ass. You don't know anything about this accident. You're guessing. Not very nice if say the students friends or family read this, and No, I don't know either pilot or the aircaft.